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Any comments on this new gun/ammo combo? I doubt any one even has this gun yet, and I didn't even find the ammunition on Federal's website.

I was looking at Ruger's website and thought the .327 Federal Magnum SP101 was a mis-type, until I saw the gun held 6 (yes six!) shots.

http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=5759&return=Y

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/st327_110707/

Another website was saying that the shorter .32 caliber rounds can be shot in it like the .32 H&R Magnum (URL was too long to post).

I think this round just might make a go of it, especially for medium bore fans that like 9mm type ballistics but also like revolvers. With a slightly smaller diameter round and 6 shots in a SP101, I think I'd like it.

EDIT: I found Federal's website announcing the new gun & ammo combination with ballistics of 3 different loadings.

http://www.federalpremium.com/default.asp?menu=1&s1=4&s2=6

[EDITED: (Yes, 327!) added.]
 

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I saw that. Kinda nifty, but don't think I'll be buying one.

I would guess the overall cartridge length would ft in a J-frame, for an even smaller six-shot snubby (every little bit helps).

I would think five .38s would still be more effective than six .32s, even if the .32s zip along at higher velocity.
BUT- I also think of .38 snubs as an expert's gun and a LOT of people would be better off with a .32...even if it didn't hold another round. And I don't exclude myself from that, as I don't work with my snubs near as much as I should.

Anyway- If I had to bet, I'd guess it will go the way of the 9mm Federal.
 

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Interesting.

It seems to penetrate OK. Might hang on as a specialists piece. Think of it as a rimmed .30 carbine.

Bet its LOUD though.


While the article doesn't give specific velocities it gives the impression that its a quantum leap beyond the .32 H&R.

Might be handy on a trapline, where the first round could be a .32S&W for dispatching critters with pelts, and the other 5 loudenboomers for protection.

The 9mm Federal had several strikes against it, not the least of which the only ones chambering it (H&R) went belly-up about the same time. I think it could have hung on had it been designed with a thicker rim so it could be used in the existing 9mm revolvers without moonclips.


Time will tell. :)


Regards,

Pat
 

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I own one of the 1989 made Ruger Blackhawk "Buckeye Special" .32 convertibles.

Its two cylinders are chambered for the .32-20 WCF and the .32 H&R Magnum. It would be easy for a gunsmith with the proper chambering reamer to lengthen the .32 Mag chambers so the new .327 Fed Mag could be shot in this revolver. With it's all steel construction and the 6.5 inch barrel, it could both handle the pressure of the new round and give true magnum level performance for the .32 bore diameter. And all of the shorter rounds could still be shot in the Blackhawk.


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Everything old is new again, Federal coming out with a round that does what the 32 H&R magnum originally did. and could probably still do in a properly built handgun. Cheap snubnose imports blowing apart killed the .32 magnum and rather than blame the guns Federal downloaded the ammo. But the make it a little longer so it doesnt fit the older gun revolver round has been around a long time. Guess there is no way of knowing what will catch on and what wont. I wouldnt bet the farm on this one though.
 

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Thought I mentioned it earlier, but apparently forgot to.

At 28 ounces, the Ruger isn't going to displace many J frames for pocket carry. Thats a full half-pound heavier than an all-steel J and nearly the weight of a K frame.

I see it as a trail gun myself, with its ability to use a wide range of ammo for different purposes.

Now a _rifle_ in .327...........now THAT is interesting.



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Yeah, I always thought the Ruger SP101 series was closer to S&W's K frame than it was to the J frame. They may not be when you put the calipers and scales to them, but they sure look that way to me. I had a .357 SP101 for a while, but decided it was just as easy to carry a 3" K-frame.

Either a 4", adjustable-sighted, SP101 or K-frame in .327 might be kinda nifty for woods walking.
I'm sure there will be some long-barreled variants made up for Hunter Silhouette.

But I don't see record sales coming from either of those angles.

A rifle, huh?
Hmmmmmm.
 
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I don't know a lot about this round but did get the opportunity to handle one of the guns the other day. It is a typical Ruger 3" SP101, which is to say that it is heavy. And although you do get 6 rounds vs. 5, not matter how fast or hot you make a .32, it is still a .32. My feeling is that for the size and weight of the gun, I would rather have a .357 Magnum even if it is only 5 shots. However, I do like the idea of the cartridge and would rather see it in a scandium Smith J-frame than a heavy Ruger 3". JMHO.
 

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I just picked mine up today.Put Hogue grips on it.It shoots 32H&R very well, I will have to wait for 327ammo or brass for a proper range report. Doug
 

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if the gun werent so dag gone heavy it would be great for a recoil sensitive person for a house gun, but if it were lighter it would recoil more so thats out the door....

the idea of a new cartridge it always interesting, but like the NAA.32 and NAA.25 i just dont see what niche this fits in that isnt already held by another gun/caliber just as well.....


p.s. a bit off the subject but on the same topic...what was the purpose for the .357sig round? i mean what does it do that the best 9mm or best .40 dont do?
 

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I'd like to check one of these out. Personally, I always use a .38/.357, but I think the narrow niche here is intriguing.

Most users of 5-shot .357s, I'd wager, actually load 'em with .38 +Ps. So this SP 101 gives the user an extra round six-shooter in 9mm +P range balistically. Semi-auto users won't go for it, but some revolver shooters will. The ability to use other .32 rounds makes it versatile, especially for reloaders. Eventually there will be carbines in the caliber, me thinks. From Ruger's perspective, since they already put out a .32 H&R SP 101, I think the R&D and modifications to the production line were minimal. And if the Federal .327 crtrdg goes nowhere, as some predict, there will still be the .32 H&R.

Perhaps most of y'all have seen this already:
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/PDF/NewProducts/KSP-32731X.pdf

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Thanks for the links. The real key question will be if Smith or Taurus also begin to manufactuer a 327 magnum revolver. If they do, then this new caliber has a chance.
 

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Smith's sales of .32H&R's have been pretty spotty. Some of the coolest models were only made for a year, like the .32H&R Kit Gun. The K-32 reissue in .32H&R only lasted a couple years. Remains to be seen what the new owners do.

Taurus may well jump in with both pocket/trail models and hunter/silhouette models.

Like Dave said, at least if the thing dies out the H&R ammo can be used so you're not left holding an orphan.


Regards,

Pat
 
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