Just looking at the bullets, they are identical to Winchesters Ranger jhp. I know there is some collusion between IMI and WW on their 5.56, Q3131 and Q3131A. I would dearly love to get my hands on a few boxes of their Di-Cut 115 gr 9mm JHP's. Everyone of these that I've fired at animate targets has expanded very well with good penetration as well.