[Guest]

Is it ok to use Wolf ammo in a BHP? I'm looking for cheap practice ammo. Thanks

 

[jonnyc]

I'm sure it's fine, but I only use steel cases in my "Soviet" pistols and rifles.

 

[jaydubya]

I've read a lot of bad press about Wolf ammo on websites. I have had good experience with reloaded ammo bought in bulk (9mm ball and .38 sp. swc), all for less than Wolf ammo. There are many sources for this, but avoid National Bullet Company. They seem to have fallen on hard times.
Cordially, Jack

 

[abninftr]

There are two problems with Wolf ammo. The steel cases are usually lacquered and will gum up the chamber after about 100 rounds. This will cause malfunctions (FTX/FTE). The other problem is that most indoor ranges won't allow Wolf ammo as they believe it to be steel cored and abusive to their backstops. Admittedly, it usually reacts to a magnet test. I haven't cut any in half lately to see if it is a solid core or a ferrous powder, so....

 

[jonnyc]

Another "problem" is that many ranges sell their scrap brass, and even one steel or aluminum case can "contaminate" a whole batch and cause the recycler to reject it.

 

[ccwman]

If you have a genuine BHP I would only shoot the newer Wolf "Gold" line with brass cases. I too have been told the lacquered steel gums up the works.

 

[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello. I strongly suggest NOT using steel-cased ammunition in the Hi Power.

Best.

 

[targetshooter]

I would like to mention, in the Northern Kentucky area, we are now seeing an influx of S & B 9 mm with copper plated steel cases. It's popping up at the range sales desks. I am sure it is due to the low cost. The fellows at the range counters typically say "it's good ammo". They are saying the same thing about ht e steel cased Wolf ammo.
I am not sure if the copper plated case is as bad as the steel case. Any comments ?

 

[Guest]

I have used Wolf's steel cased .380 loads in a Bersa Thunder 380 and I would not buy it again. My pistol will feed and fire anything well. I have never had any jam ups with any factory ammo except Wolf. The only way I can use it is to alternate it with brass cased loads in the mag. I was disapointed with it to say the least.

 

[demented]

I will NOT use Wolf in any gun I own. I saw what was left of a Marlin Camp Rifle that was blown to pieces with Wolf .45. To compound matters, Wolf refused to do anything about this. My life, my firearms are worth more than the few bucks saved by using this ....stuff.

 

[Guest]

I realize Im new here so my comment will fall on deaf ears, but I love the stuff!!! I've shot 10's of thousands of rounds through my AK's with no isues at ALL!! I just picked up a FEG Hi-Power (hence me joining this forum) and plan on shooting wolf through it too.

 

[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello and welcome to the site. If not too much trouble, please let us know how the Hi Power likes the Wolff ammunition, not so much the brass case ammunition that I hear is available, but the steel if that's what you are opting to use.

FWIW, got an email from a fellow two days ago concerning a broken extractor in his Hi Power. It might very well have been going to break or a defective part to be sure, but he did mention that he had been shooting "steel-cased" ammunition.

I'll shoot steel case ammunition in a Makarov or AK but have shyed away from using it in guns engineered for brass cases.

Best.

 

[Guest]

I understand the issue, and will watch things closely. I havent fired more than 200rds of Wolf through any pistol, so I am no expert on it. All I know is, my AK's love it!! Thanks for the heads up!! Kevin.

 

[Guest]

AK's, SKS's and a great proliferation of Soviet small arms were designed around steel-cased ammo (particularly in the area of chamber dimensions and finishes) and function well with it. Firearms that were not so designed can have serious functional and parts durability problems when using it.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the advice guys. I only have 1000rds of it so, worst case is I spread it around to all of my 9mm's and then they'll only have to shoot about 200rds each. I have friends that shoot wolf in their 9mm's with no FTF's, or FTE's, so I think it will be reliable enough for me, but I dont want to have to replace any extractors.

 

[gunseller]

I have owned a BHP or FN P 35 sense 1974. I have shot many thousands of rounds of wolf through an Izzy P 35 with no problems. The laqure will melt to the chamber walls if you shoot fast enough to get the barrel up to a high temp. I have seen ARs stopped this way but never a BHP or FN P 35. Other ammo is more accurate than Wolf but it works. Ammo if it is steel cased or brass is the same. Firearms are not designed around steel or brass cased ammo. The ammo is designed for the firearm. If the ammo is unsafe it would not be fore sale in the U.S., we have too many lawyers.
Steve

 

[twoguns]

Howdy Mr. Steve,

First welcome to the site sir. I hope and think you will find we have a lot of members who possess sound knowledge on firearms and various firearms related matters. We don't feel we have an "experts" here, but we do have a ton of members with a great deal of knowledge and experience they willingly share with other members. We are also proud that our members tend to provide their info as true gentlemen as well. So we welcome your future comments and questions as well.

I am glad you have had such good luck with Wolf steel cased ammo in your pistols. Again I think that is why they make Fords and Chevrolets - so folks can have the choice on what they drive or shoot.

Personally, I simply have no desire to use Wolf ammo in any of my weapons. I reload, so that is another factor for me as well. When I buy ammo, I am buying once fired brass I can reload after shooting it initially. I simply have no desire to reload a steel hull.

I can tell you among fellow LEOs, Wolf does not have a very high reputation as practice ammo. Nor will you find it on our list of authorized carry ammo either. While it might be a bit cheaper at times, most LEOs and other shooters I know, feel they are better served by spending a few dollars more on another brand that gives them the brass case to use afterwards too.

It also serves to avoid any possible problems associated with shooting steel cased ammo in some fairly expensive pistols. Maybe that is why so many folks tend to avoid it, as they simply don't think the odds are worth it to them. You don't see those odds, but others do I reckon.

But again, why they make Fords and Chevys too. I am glad your experience with it has been so positive. Again, welcome to the site sir, and we look forward to your future posts.

twoguns

 

[gunseller]

twoguns
I do agree with the it is a choice idea for Wolf ammo. I do know of some large police departments that buy Wolf by the pallet for practice and love it in their ARs. As you implied to each their own. I also reload but I aquired the Wolf cheaper than the price of powder and primers. I have heard of some stating broken extractors using steel cased ammo. I believe these are the internal type. My Izzy has an external extractor. I have coached several people into being able to qualifing using wolf ammo. They also shot wolf durning qualifing.
I have carried BHPs or FN P 35s for over 30 years. I like the P35s better than the BHP. I know they are the same but the P 35 is what does it for me. I have mixed parts between the two and still had it shoot to POA.
Steve

 

[Guest]

Ammo if it is steel cased or brass is the same. Firearms are not designed around steel or brass cased ammo. The ammo is designed for the firearm.

Actually, if you study the development of Soviet small arms, this is not the situation. The elasticity characteristics of brass and the mild steel used in cartridges is quite different and does require that the firearm be designed around steel-cased ammo. Much research and development was conducted by Soviet small arms engineers to get a proliferation of small arms to function reliably with such ammo; in particular, chamber dimensions and finish were found to be critical, and much different than that required for brass-cased ammo.