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Hello. Of late I've been shooting quite a few semiautos of late for ammo testing, giving shooting lessons, friendly competition, and checking out a 1911 "built" at home.

Yesterday, a good friend and I went shooting and when I went to the safe I automatically was reaching into the bin of 1911's when I spied a little gem I'd not shot in a few weeks.

Nothing fancy a tall, it is just a clean used S&W Model 64 3" that I bought right at a gunshow last year.


Shown here with my Model 638, the M64 has had little done to it. I cleaned up the action very, very little and stuck on a pair of Pachmayr rubber grips. They're not the prettiest in the world, but I do find them extremely comfortable on this revolver.

Anyway it was pleasant not to have to pick up cases other than when practicing the "practical" stuff and shooting double-action always brings back memories from early police revolver shooting.

Though I'm not wedded to semiautos, they are what I shoot most of the time but it seems like each and every single time I shoot a revolver that I wonder why I don't spend at least equal time with them.


This little thing showed itself no slouch on paper, falling plates, or popping cans at about 50 yards.

Even if you are an "automatic man," I respectfully suggest that if you own a good revolver that is being "neglected," don't! Considered "obsolete" by some, they remain really fun shooters and I personally wouldn't be afraid to have one as a primary handgun in a fight.

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Our gun club has 2 'cowboy' events each year where SA revolvers, any caliber, are required. We shoot timed fire at 5 targets starting with the revolver holstered. Timekeeper uses a stopwatch.
I shoot an old Heritage Rough Rider for the event. Great fun!
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Aha! Mr. Camp is a revolver man! Who knew?

I stumbled into this forum via Mr. Camp's website, which I found when I was bitten by the HiPower bug couple months ago, and between his hipower website and the 1911 custom builds he was workin' on, I thought he was another of the single-action only fanatical persuasion. I am so relieved!


I really learned to shoot using a S&W Model 19 I inherited from my Dad, which came with an interesting police story (the M-19 I mean, not my dad -- well, actually my Dad came with some interesting stories too, but not involving the police!).

I had really never fired a handgun or rifle all that much, altho I was in the military - the Air Force is not really big on small arms, except for the Security Forces maybe. The Air Force's idea of weapon usually runs 500 pounds and up, and has to be strapped to something going really fast.

So anyway, Dad died in 1991, and Mom gave me the M-19 when I returned from overseas the next year (my brother took the M-66). I thought "I really need to learn how to shoot this properly." I was stationed in Los Angeles at the time, and somehow came up with the name of Mike Dalton, of International Shootists Institute (http://www.isishootists.com/isi_home.htm). Had no idea who he was then, but the price was right. Went to an all-day Saturday beginner handgun class in a canyon/valley near Lake Piru (where the Southwest Pistol League shoots), and discovered Wow! This is fun!


Most in the class were using semi-autos, but Mike noticed I was having fun and not totally inept, so he literally turned me around and pointed across the valley to a revolver club, the California Wheelburners (http://www.cawheelburners.com/), a club devoted completely to revolver shooting.

I brought the M-19 to my first match, and they loaned me holster and belt and speedloaders, and away I went. Had so much fun I bought a 6-inch version of the M-19 just for match shooting. Holster & paraphernalia to match. Hogue grips. Fourteen kinds of cleaning stuff. Electronic hearing protection. More lessons from Mike. Realized that everytime I pulled the trigger with store-bought ammo I was shooting quarters downrange, so bought a Dillon Square Deal B. Collected brass out the wazoo (new or once-fired only, please!). Cranked out 10,000 rounds before I stopped counting cumulative total. Good gosh, it turned me into a full-fledged gun-nut! Right in Diane Feinstein's home state! heh.


I was having such fun that a buddy at work, retired Marine and one hell of nice guy, got interested in revolver shooting and bought a S&W M-10. He didn't come to the matches, but he and I had a standing appointment every non-match Saturday morning at the LAX Range (http://www.laxrange.com/) for a couple hundred rounds, then lunch in El Segundo at a nice quiet bar and sandwich place, where we discussed all things revolver. We both got more Hogue grips. Cocobolo!

Anywho, I have no idea where I was going with the post, except that Mr. Camp's comment about revolver shooting being fun unlocked a whole lotta good memories. I'm still ringing out the HiPower I bought, and I love it, but I really enjoy the revolvers. I carry a snubbie for self-defense purposes, because it's what I know best. I am really partial to the M-19s, both for their place in history and as my inheritance, so I shoot Dad's gun sparingly. I inherited the Model 66 also when my brother died, so it's a bit of safe queen too (I read S&W just stopped making them this last year).

For some unknown reason I sold the six-incher a while back, so now I am thinking I'd like a nice full-size shooter (obviously my two snubbies and the M-60 3-incher are not sufficient!), and man, that Taurus M627 I picked up in the gunstore the other day is really, really nice....I think Mr. Camp's comments just pushed me over the edge. (Like I needed a shove).

Thanks for the post, Mr. Camp! Nice pix, I like the M-64. If the digital camera wasn't out of town traveling with my wife, I'd figure out how to show of ol' faithful and it's stainless steel brother.

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Hello and thanks so much for the kind words. I'm tickled that the post was of interest. It is interesting that you mention your Model 19 coming from your father upon his passing. In the '70's when I was in policing, my dad wanted a "good" defense gun for the home. I bought him a 4" Model 19...which I received back upon his death.


My father's Model 19 doesn't see any "serious" work. I qualified with it one year during CHL instructor renewal but mostly just shoot it at paper targets.

I shoot it now and again, but it is usually locked up in the safe for sentimental reasons.

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Hi there Stephen,

Thank you so much for this post.

Not too long ago, I bought the first revolver that I have owned in many years. After reading your articles on CCW revolvers, I bought a brand new Smith and Wesson 642!.

After so many years of owning and chasing the next auto-loader, I went back to the joy and fun of shooting the revolver. It was indeed nice not be to pelted with brass cases banging down from the ceiling of the shooting stall at the indoor range, or rubbing my fingers raw on the magazine feed lips while loading!

I remember a good friend once told me, "unlike your auto-loader, a good revolver and good ammunition will never fail you..." Those kind words of advice have been with me for many years.

Again, thank you Stephen. And while getting ready to go to the range today, I think I'll tuck my 642 in my bag.

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I rambled on so long with other stuff, I forgot to mention the police history of my Dad's Model 19, which I think is kind of interesting (but then I would!).

I grew up in small county in southern Indiana (Josh might know where Brown County is) in the 60's and 70's, and my Dad was acquainted with the local constabulary, which wasn't all that big -- I think a dozen deputies, couple town marshalls, and a State Trooper. Anyway, one of the deputies had a little boo-boo with his Model 19 inside his cruiser, resulting in a hole in the dash. Instead of 'fessing up, he got out, shot a few more rounds into the car, and tried to convince Sheriff Kritzer that someone had fired on him. The Sheriff was a retired state law enforcement officer of many years, with only one arm (one hand, actually), but a fully functioning B.S. detector. Result was the deputy force suddenly had a vacancy, and there was a M-19 for sale in the Sheriff's office. Dad bought at the duty desk, and we've had it ever since.

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Great post. When I started police work I used a M 67 with 2 speed loaders. Moved to a different agency and carried a M 10 and 2 speed loaders for 12 years before they went to autos. I never felt under guned. I would not feel that way today either if it was a primary. Wheelguns are just plain fun to shoot. Another reason is I think it brings back such wonderful memories. Memories of simpler times.
 

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Mr. Camp,

I too appreciate this post. I still vividly remember my ringing out my first handgun, a pin-barrel square-butt 2" blue Model 10. I shot that gun so much, and when I sighted up on a target, I had no doubt where the bullet was going!

Those days were different in many ways to now, but shooting a revolver is just as much fun today as then.
 

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Hello and thanks very much.


I like these old things too. I lost count of how many of these I saw in detective's holsters years ago.

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Hi! Thanks for sharing memories with us.

2" Model 10's seem to shoot so much better than they ought to.

Won a couple of quite decent cigars from folks who thought they could whup me in a 'snubby challenge'. (And they were normally MUCH better shots than me.)

Mine is a 10-5, round butt, currently wearing Uncle Mikes boot grips. _Sweet_ action on it.

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I sure like Glock 19 and to a lessor extent my 1911. But for durability/reliability my 686+ just FEELS right. Rock solid reliable and easy to shoot.

Another of my "always" range guns is my 3" bbl .357 SP101 - solid, reliable, easy to shoot and accurate.

Darn! Now I WILL have to find a range thats open tommorrow instead of just lying by the pool all day.

I knew I shouldn't have dropped in here....
 
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I've carried a bottomfeeder for my entire career, a scnt 6.5 years so far, but I would feel perfectly well armed with a nice revolver, the stocks of my choosing, and Safariland comp3 loaders. I have a couple of 4" heavy barreled K frames with square butts and fixed sights. One is a retired police revolver. I don't know about the history of the other.

For years I have looked for a 3" K frame with a round butt. I finally found one this past week, a model 13-4, and I am very pleased with it.

I bought a 642 a short time ago, and since then I have been carrying my 4" 13 as my CCW quite a bit. The 3" will fill that bill nicely.

We're going to shoot a new course this year that is revovler neutral. I may carry one of the wheelguns out there and shoot the course with it to show up those that whine about shooting with a bottomfeeder.
 
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Stephen,

I purchased a 4-inch 629MG awhile back, mainly to shoot .44 special and to tote on walkabouts. Another "favorite" gun. Your enthusiasm for your 21 (is it a 24?) had bumped up my interest in .44s several months ago, nudging me toward finally getting one. Sure glad I did.

Anyway, I agree with your sentiments at the start of this thread.

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The Model 24 is the gun that made a serious shooter out of me. I was a once-or-twice-per-month kind of guy before that. Now I am out there 2-3 times per week. While I dearly love a number of other guns, such as my HP, 1911, and AR-15, the Model 24 was what taught me what a really great gun could be like. Since then I have picked up some others of equal worth, such as a 8 3/8" Model 57 (my deer gun), a Model 13, a Vaquero in .45 Colt, and some others. But it's the Model 24 that still grabs me the most. Yeah, I love shooting revolvers too Stephen.
 
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This post has really got the nostalgia trip started. My first handgun was an H&R .22 revolver - top break, nine shots? (long time ago). Again I've rediscovered the relaxation of shooting a revolver - particularly the big-framed ones that absorb. Recent favorite is a Ruger Blackhawk - must be something about the way it just eats recoil even with hot .357 loads.

Fun thread!
 
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