[Guest]

Any thoughts on these auto loaders?

What is the current viewpoint on .32 v. .380?

 

[roadster]

I've never owned a Seecamp, but I've shot the .32 model with Winchester 60 gr STHP's.

This model has no sights and it doesn't need them IMO. I shot at a distance of ten feet and found that I could put my shots into a four inch group with rapid fire just by looking over the top of the slide. This level of accuracy is nearly identical with my KelTec P32 and Fiocchi 73 gr FMJ's. Functioning of the Seecamp was flawless for the 50 rounds fired. This pistol of made of stainless steel and weights a bit more than the P32, but the level of felt recoil seemed higher than the P32.

The Seecamp was designed around the STHP which was the only .32 JHP load available at that time. From what I have recently read, current production pistols are okay with Gold Dots, XTPs, and Hydra-Shoks. But these are pricey rounds with a box of 20 costing as much as a 50 round box of US made FMJ. The Seecamp magazine will not accept the FMJ load because it is too long. To me, that is one reason to shine the Seecamp on.

When I shot the Seecamp, the MSRP was $450. But dealers who had them were asking $750 and up for them NIB. I've heard that the prices have come down and now the .32 model can be had NIB for MSRP.

About all I know about the .380 Seecamp is that it is EXPENSIVE. Like $900-$1000 worth. And that is all I need to know....


Roadster

 

[Guest]

You can buy a comparable NAA autopistol for quite a bit less.

Scott

 

[Guest]

Shot my Seecamp for the first time earlier this month. Quite a little handful for a .32, and I wouldn't call it pleasurable to shoot. It has a sharp push back with a small grip and not much to hold onto. After 50 rounds of Silvertips, I had had enough. It was accurate enough for me, but I will probably shoot it very little, and maybe carry it as a backup gun. I do have some Speer Gold Dots on order, and am interested to see how they do. The only problems I had were a couple of stovepipes on the last round in a magazine, after the last round fired; the function of the weapon is a bit strange to me, as well. You need to have the magazine in place to retract the slide more than a little bit, so clearance drills take a bit of getting used to. In terms of size, it can't be beat; it could be carried always. Hope this helps.

 

[poppy]

Hey rtw, I know your question is about Seecamp and 32 vs 380 but I would like to weigh in based on what Roadster posted. Several years ago I sent a down payment directly to Seecamp for a 32 and when I got comfirmation that they were caught up with production and were ready to ship the pistol for a total cost of $350, if memory serves, my FFL dealer talked me out of going thru with the purchase and I got a refund. After that I bought a KelTec P32 and I am glad that I did. The P32 is a locked breech type rather than blow back and it makes all the difference in felt recoil. With the light weight and low price of the KelTec one can't go wrong; it is a brilliant design. I am currently in the market for a KelTec 380 for the same reasons that I like the P32, weight and price. I have passed on the NAA versions because they are heavier and more costly than the KelTec. As far as 32 vs 380, carry the biggest caliber that you can. poppy

 

[Guest]

Thanks everyone.

 

[poppy]

My memory was probably off, the retail price on the Seecamp 32 was probably $450 when I was trying to buy one, but I just saw a NIB Seecamp 32 on gunbroker for $365 including shipping. If you still want one, there it is at a good price. I will stick with the KelTec P32 although I also have a Beretta Tomcat 32 that I really like. poppy