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I've gotten more into heavy loads in my old age. I feel like the 185-grainers are sort of a holdover from the lighter/faster days of the '80s. Now that I know to worry about penetration, I go for at least 200-gr LSWCs.

Not to say that there's anything wrong with the STHP, though. :)

Hey three feathers,, just pick up the Winchester white box personal defense ammo, It is exactly the same bullet and ammo just is loaded in brass cases and doesnt have the Silver colored tip, expansion, penetration, velocity are identical.
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