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I have heard Massad Ayoob parrot, on more than one occasion, that the P-35 is only reliable if it's 13rd magazine is only loaded to 12 rounds. Anyone on here ever actually experience this? I haven't, and over the past 3 years I've put right around 3000 round through two 9mm P-35s. In every instance my magazines were loaded to the full 13rd capacity, and never a feeding problem...
 

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Hello. In years past when the Hi Power came with the old humped feed ramp, it was sometimes a way to get reliability with some JHP's in some guns, but in my own experience it has not been a hard and fast rule. It might be of some use if forced to use a pistol with which one could not alter the feed ramp at all.

In Mk II and Mk III pistols, I've fired more than a few thousand JHP's with zero problems off of full magazines.

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In saying all this, he mostly referred to the British SAS users, and I guess if they're pistols use the old style humped feed ramp, they'd probably be prohibited from altering an issue handgun. Seems to me if that were the case, they should be using more modern versions of the pistol, which do not suffer from feedramp-induced reliability of feed problems...of course I'm sure, due to military/NATO/accord prohibitions, they're probably not using hollow points, anyway...
 

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The only problem I've experienced with my MKIII and a couple of other guns was when "backloading," putting one in the chamber and then adding a full 13-round mag.

I don't know how many rounds my carrying gun has had through it without failure, but I honestly don't remember it failing except when the problem was directly attributable to problems with some of my reloads.
 

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Never had any problems with full mags and up-to-snuff recoil and mag springs. The SAS would probably be using FMJ so it shouldn't have been a prob. They probably had well-used pistols with weak mag and recoil springs, those causing the feed issues.
 

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I have never had a problem. The real FN mag (not the Mec-Gar OEM of later years) will sometimes hold 14 rounds anyway (it depends on the case dimensions...9X19 is notorious for differences in case dimensions for foreign ammo - Devels used to come with a case gauge).

These days I use a Mec-Gar 15 rounders as well as some of the Sought African 17 rounders (they have a thick base pad)...no problems loading them up.

I do download most of my Glocks. Not for feeding reliability but, over time, I see the baseplates bowing if I leave them fully loaded and in the gun. I would hate to have the gun do a "B-52" (dump its ammo all at once) just in order to have one extra round.

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Jim
 

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Dullh,

Have a look at the rebuttal article to Mas' "Guns" magazine article on www.fnhipower.com. It specifically addresses his SAS "story". The author who served in the Australian Army says Ayoob is full of **it.
 
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I have 6 factory Browning mags for my Hi-Power. They're all standard 13 round mags and function just fine when loaded with 13 rounds.... and a couple of them will actully hold 14 rounds, though I don't load it that full. I'm lucky to have a close friend that was a Master Gunsmith at the Browning facility in St. Louis, who sent me 4 of them just before the ban took effect 10 years ago. Unfortunately, he's retired now! :(
 
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