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As much as I hate to admit it I am being sorely tempted by the dark side. I have a hankerin' for a Sig 9mm. I am looking mostly at the medium size guns, the 225, 228 and 229. I am a relatively big guy with big hands but short stubby fingers. I have fired a 225 before and really liked it but the extra mag capacity of the 228-229 wouldn't hurt my feelings if they would fit my hand. Fit comes before capacity for me though.
So, what do you guys advise?
 

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SIG makes an aftermarket trigger that shortens the reach. I would try a gun with that trigger IF you can finde someone who has one.

I have medium sized hands and I find the trigger reach in DA on the P226 (essentially the same as the P228/9) to just a little long for my likings. I suspect you would find it too long for your hands.

I've handled the SIG polymer guns, but not shot one. That is an option for you. Personally, I didn't like their feel or the way the balanced (or rather didn't balance).
 

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wheelgunner,

My advice: don't buy a Sig before without at least looking at the Browning Hi Power. Keep in mind that most people change the grips on the BHP, so don't be put off by the factory grips.
 

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Hello WheelG.,

I owned a SIG Sauer P225 for a long time. It is a very good tool, accurate and reliable. A pleasure to shoot, good ergonomics with the decocking lever. Some might find it big and blocky for a 8+1 shooter but it's the price to pay for a good grip on a hammer design and modified Browning lock (the HK USPs are the same size). The factory plastic grips are slimmer than woods from SIG or Nill.

Here in Switzerland (and in most German L
 

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I have pretty medium sized hands, and I found the P228 worked fine for me. The 225 is a joy to handle, but the P239 is actually even smaller through the grip.

SIG-Sauers are superb guns, if a bit larger than they need to be.
 

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In the SIG line I would first look to the 239,, for the double stackers, I like the 228 over the 229 in 9mm, just feels like its balance is better,, find one with what they call the short trigger, or look at the SIGPRO-2009
its in 9mm and can be had with the short trigger and the small grip .
 

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Sig reliability is solid and accuracy is nice as well. They will stand above most factory pistols out there. My favorite for quite a while was the 228. I used the 226 at some of my duty stations with the military and found that it shot well also.
One other offering you may wish to look at is the CZ P-01. The ergonomics are a bit nicer than the Sig with the barrel resting closer to the hand to lower perceived recoil and allow for faster follow up shots. The grip is also nice. Triggers on both are comparable and can be made better on both manufacturer's pistols by a good smith.
I cannot recall having a failure to go bang with either. Feeding and reliability are there.
Which ever way you go have fun shooting,
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As much as I hate to admit it I am being sorely tempted by the dark side. I have a hankerin' for a Sig 9mm. I am looking mostly at the medium size guns, the 225, 228 and 229. I am a relatively big guy with big hands but short stubby fingers. I have fired a 225 before and really liked it but the extra mag capacity of the 228-229 wouldn't hurt my feelings if they would fit my hand. Fit comes before capacity for me though.
So, what do you guys advise?
Say it ain't so, Shane...
 
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I have owned or do own now, 9mm p226's, a P239, a p225 and a P210. I do not think that any of them has ever malfunctioned once (and that is over thousands of rounds).


My P210 has been the most accurate, but the others were not that far behind. For a range gun I would probably go with a P225 out of the double action designs (It fits my hand best). The P239 for carry (stainless slide).
 
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Thanks all. I mostly settled on the Sig because I have never owned one and that's about all the reason I need to buy something. ;) I did have a HP once upon a time but it liked to bite the hand that fed it. As a dedicated revolver shooter DA triggers don't bother me much (I made IDPA expert with a Berretta 92FS). So a Sig it is, I'm going to order one of the used 228's from CDNN tomarrow. I'll let you know how it shoots.
 
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wheelgunner100, the only Sig I am overly fond of is the P228. I find the P220 and P226 too large, the P230 finickity, the P239 blocky in my hand, and the P245 nothing great. For a small 45 the Glock 30 is a better weapon in my hands. Regards, Richard
 

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I have a 228 in 9mm and a 229 in .40. They are both outstanding pistols. The 228 is lighter than the 229 because of the construction of the slide. The balance and handling feel better on the 228, but the 229 is rock solid while shooting. I am curious about the 229 in 9mm. Seems like it would be a very solid shooter because of the heavy slide. ::)
 

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I have a 229 in 9mm and like it very much. I chose the 229 over the 228 due to it having a machined stainless slide, and I liked the look of the slide serrations on the 229 better than those found on the 228.

I have handled both the 229 and 228, and I find little to no difference in the feel between the two. The 229 is a very accurate and reliable pistol. (0 malfunctions to date) The trigger reach is a little long, but other than that I would highly recommend it to anyone.
 

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I have long had a reputation as a fellow who can make any semiauto jam, probably because I have a tendency to hold a pistol too lightly, limp wristing it. The problem is particiularly bad with polymer frame weapons. However, in the late '90s I purchased my first Sig, a 239. Since then I've added a 210, a 220, a 226, and a 229 to my collection. To the best of my memory I have had four jams in the many thousands of rounds that I have put through them. Although I too find the grips of some Sig models blocky and a bit too large for my hand, I nonetheless shoot them accurately. They don't have that lovely "feel" of a CZ or HiPower, but their positive aspects far exceed their limitations. If my life were on the line, I'd want my Sig 229.
 
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These are the Sigs I have owned and my feelings on them:

220
226
229 x 2

Sigs have a rabid fan base so please understand these comments are only from my personal experience with the sig brand and not intended to insult.

The 220 (45acp) was a good gun but not even close to a 1911 in terms of trigger or the very personal "feel" factor.

The 226 (9mm) was just a common double stack 9mm that offered nothing (except for price) over the various other double stack guns on the market like the S&W 5906, Beretta 92, Glock 17, etc.....

The 229's (both in 40) were both issued duty weapons. The first 229 worked just fine but looked 10 years old after about 4 months. I switched depts. (depts were close together and they both issued the same gun) and that 229 was a POS.

Every sig I have owned has been very poorly finished. Even with extreme care the finish would fall off just by giving the gun a dirty look.

They have also all been DA/SA which I find to be very poorly suited to good shooting.

The second 229 was NOT reliable with any ammo. It would hang up about once out of 50 rounds or so.

All the other guns were reliable.


As far as having a "service/duty type" 9mm I only own one anymore, a Glock 17. All my other guns are revolvers of various sorts, 1911's, and one S&W 3913.

The Glock feels like crap and looks like crap but mine has around 10K or more rounds through it and it has never malfunctioned one single time. Even though I don't like the way it feels I shoot it better than any "service/duty type" handgun I have ever shot. I really like the fact that it has same trigger pull for each shot and I think that is why I like the gun much more than the various other DA/SA guns.

I'm not a "GLOCKS RULE!!!!" type by any stretch of the imagination but the appeal of a Sig is something I have never grasped even after owning 4 of them.
 

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I can't and won't argue with that. The trigger on the Glock is a shorter reach than it is on the SIG. That alone makes it a bit more user friendly.

I own both, but with the exception of teaching one or the other, or instructing with it, I haven't shot either in over three years. I've actually got more trigger time with my wife's revolvers than with the SIG or Glock combined.

I always prefer to shoot what I carry. That is a High Power. Since my wife is often with me, and there's plenty of ammo (I reload it for her) I usually put a 110 or so of .38s down range through her Colts. Revolvers are excellent for trigger control practice.
 
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