New thread for just the bore...
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Hello. I normally leave a very light film of Militech or similar product.
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Thanks OG,
Now this is a real puzzler since most people that actually clean their handguns are more concerned with the outside appearance of their semi-auto, than the inside
First, I try to remove all of the fouling including powder residue, lead or copper fouling with a bronze brush, solvent and traditional cleaning patches. I generally give the bore a wet patch soaking with Hoppes No. 9 and let the barrel set for at least 1/2 hour. I then swab the bore dry and lightly coat it with militec, or hoppes gun oil.
Since I have started using Militec exclusively now, the amount of fouling in the bore has been reduced significantly.
Chris
Now this is a real puzzler since most people that actually clean their handguns are more concerned with the outside appearance of their semi-auto, than the inside
First, I try to remove all of the fouling including powder residue, lead or copper fouling with a bronze brush, solvent and traditional cleaning patches. I generally give the bore a wet patch soaking with Hoppes No. 9 and let the barrel set for at least 1/2 hour. I then swab the bore dry and lightly coat it with militec, or hoppes gun oil.
Since I have started using Militec exclusively now, the amount of fouling in the bore has been reduced significantly.
Chris
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·Wont the round go faster with oil in the barrel??
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I put a light coat of Rem oil teflon with a patch.
I put a light coat of Rem oil teflon with a patch.
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Wont the round go faster with oil in the barrel??![]()
I put a light coat of Rem oil teflon with a patch.
NEVER use teflon in your barrel it will kill it in the long run.... Use militec-1 there no teflon in it its made to bond to the metal when heated you could also look at using lucus oil they make a product for firearms that does the same as militec-1 but I have not tried it but with either shoot till the gun is up to temp and you will be all set.
Militec-1 oil and grease is all I use now and it works great on the slide in and out of the barrel all over.
Great replies!! Keep more coming.
And some of you gunsmith types...how about commenting on the pros/cons of using oil with teflon additives like Breakfree CLP. I've heard it both ways about using it/not using it in the bore. So far I've noticed no difference using CLP and just plain Rem Oil in the bore.
Help!!!
og
And some of you gunsmith types...how about commenting on the pros/cons of using oil with teflon additives like Breakfree CLP. I've heard it both ways about using it/not using it in the bore. So far I've noticed no difference using CLP and just plain Rem Oil in the bore.
Help!!!
og
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OG,
I don't think that I have ever heard any scientific evidence to corraberate the above statements about using Breakfree CLP in the bore of a gun. I've used it for years with no noticeable change in the composition or performance of the metal.
I may be missing something. However, the bore of a firearm is a very hostile environment for anything to last too long. After all, even rifling eventually wears away with about 100,000 rounds and plus some.
Chris
I don't think that I have ever heard any scientific evidence to corraberate the above statements about using Breakfree CLP in the bore of a gun. I've used it for years with no noticeable change in the composition or performance of the metal.
I may be missing something. However, the bore of a firearm is a very hostile environment for anything to last too long. After all, even rifling eventually wears away with about 100,000 rounds and plus some.
Chris
Well, I agree that a slick treatment of CLP left in the bore could/might/will make the first round hit the target off-center. But for a CCW pistol that may be in my pocket everyday for weeks/months without cleaning or firing, I like the bore to have something to protect it from what we commonly call rust. (Unless it's a SS barrel) So the best product I've found for that is CLP. I could care less if the first round doesn't hit dead center with my CCW.
But for target competition I'm a believer in "conditioning" the bore with a minimum fo 100 rounds or more before accepting the zero on my scope or the group I might be getting, especially with .22LR.
Again, anything in the bore will/should be burned away after 100 rounds and the bore should settle down for tight groups. I try to condition the bore the day before a match and then don't clean it before the match.
Somebody tell me if I'm wrong about this.
og.........who is an old dog trying to learn new tricks (or get rid of bad habits).
But for target competition I'm a believer in "conditioning" the bore with a minimum fo 100 rounds or more before accepting the zero on my scope or the group I might be getting, especially with .22LR.
Again, anything in the bore will/should be burned away after 100 rounds and the bore should settle down for tight groups. I try to condition the bore the day before a match and then don't clean it before the match.
Somebody tell me if I'm wrong about this.
og.........who is an old dog trying to learn new tricks (or get rid of bad habits).
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I don't know if you have tried it but the best out there is Militec-1 oil and grease I switch from others to just that and for cleaning M-Pro 7 is all I use.
http://www.militec-1.com/
http://www.mpro7.com/
Another good one which I didn't think work as good but alot of people use is ProTec.
Here some reading on militec: Militec-1 is Good Stuff
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Sorry that link for reading up on militec didn't work here is where you can read about it there also one on Protec militec write up is just down alittle on the page.
http://hunting.about.com/od/guncleanrev/
http://hunting.about.com/od/guncleanrev/
Henchmen77,
You can read in the link below where we just recently got OG "turned on" to Militec-1. But it's always good to see someone else using Militec, I find the product not only works extremely well, but the service and the company providing it are top notch as well.
http://handgunsandammo.proboards36.com/index.cgi?board=Discussion&action=display&thread=1118277836
Ok, so as for oil in the barrel, am I correct in thinking one should simply put a film of it inside the barrel mainly to prevent rust? I can understand that being especially useful on a carry gun. So what is the prefered method of applying the coating to the barrel? I'm thinking several drops of my lube/oil on a patch and run it through the bore a couple of times, and then let it be...
-Rob
You can read in the link below where we just recently got OG "turned on" to Militec-1.
But it's always good to see someone else using Militec, I find the product not only works extremely well, but the service and the company providing it are top notch as well.http://handgunsandammo.proboards36.com/index.cgi?board=Discussion&action=display&thread=1118277836
Ok, so as for oil in the barrel, am I correct in thinking one should simply put a film of it inside the barrel mainly to prevent rust? I can understand that being especially useful on a carry gun. So what is the prefered method of applying the coating to the barrel? I'm thinking several drops of my lube/oil on a patch and run it through the bore a couple of times, and then let it be...
-Rob
Rob,
that's kinda what I do for my CCW pistol, just enough on a patch and run it thru the bore to leave a very thin film. You can look at the bore with a bright light and see if it looks too oily or too dry.
The Breakfree CLP apparently passed a bunch of military tests and is being recommended (for the bore, too) in this article......
http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/breakfree.htm
I haven't had time to search the whole internet on this stuff so I'd sure like to hear from anyone where CLP actually screwed up his pistol bore.
Tough question to find the best answer. Don't give up!
og
that's kinda what I do for my CCW pistol, just enough on a patch and run it thru the bore to leave a very thin film. You can look at the bore with a bright light and see if it looks too oily or too dry.
The Breakfree CLP apparently passed a bunch of military tests and is being recommended (for the bore, too) in this article......
http://www.madogre.com/Interviews/breakfree.htm
I haven't had time to search the whole internet on this stuff so I'd sure like to hear from anyone where CLP actually screwed up his pistol bore.
Tough question to find the best answer. Don't give up!
og
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Hi there OG,
I read the link and it pretty much confirmed everything I've read previously on Break Free CLP. Militec has their own database of information showing its success in military testing and DOD specs.
I guess that now it just comes down to personal preference and actual consumer usage of its products as a form of testimonial. I use it now in the bores of all my CCW firearms including the Kel Tec's (P-32, P3-AT and P-11) as well as my BHP and FEG PJK-9HP and I can tell you that the Militec does not evaporate--it stays.
The bores on my carry guns clean up much more quickly and show less fouling when I use Militec in repeated applications. I use other products to actually clean the bore of the firearm.
I lightly oil the bores of all of my firearms to prevent rust pitting from long term storage. All that it takes it a change of humidity where they are stored to start the oxidation process.
This is especially true where I live in coastal SC so close to the ocean. There are some days, I can't see clearly out of the windshield of my truck because of the salt spray residue from the ocean.
Chris
I read the link and it pretty much confirmed everything I've read previously on Break Free CLP. Militec has their own database of information showing its success in military testing and DOD specs.
I guess that now it just comes down to personal preference and actual consumer usage of its products as a form of testimonial. I use it now in the bores of all my CCW firearms including the Kel Tec's (P-32, P3-AT and P-11) as well as my BHP and FEG PJK-9HP and I can tell you that the Militec does not evaporate--it stays.
The bores on my carry guns clean up much more quickly and show less fouling when I use Militec in repeated applications. I use other products to actually clean the bore of the firearm.
I lightly oil the bores of all of my firearms to prevent rust pitting from long term storage. All that it takes it a change of humidity where they are stored to start the oxidation process.
This is especially true where I live in coastal SC so close to the ocean. There are some days, I can't see clearly out of the windshield of my truck because of the salt spray residue from the ocean.
Chris
thanks, carolina'
looks like things have come a long way since the days all we had was Hoppes #9 and Winchester gun oil. I'll continue using and comparing all of the new stuff and hope someday I might find the one "that works for me" (old, dumb TV commercial).
Anyway, we may have worn out this thread.
Onward!
og
looks like things have come a long way since the days all we had was Hoppes #9 and Winchester gun oil. I'll continue using and comparing all of the new stuff and hope someday I might find the one "that works for me" (old, dumb TV commercial).
Anyway, we may have worn out this thread.
Onward!
og
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Hello,
I always apply a light coat of oil to the bore.
I use Hoppe's No.9 High Viscosity Oil, but, I've heard so much about how FIREPOWER FP-10 reduces bore fouling that I bought a pint, I've haven't had the chance to see for myself yet, but I do have a new unfired barrel treated with it that should "tell the tale".
Mr. Schuemann has a very interesting section about Barrel Cleaning on his web site, scroll down on the left and you'll find it. www.schuemann.com
Take Care,
The Sockman
I always apply a light coat of oil to the bore.
I use Hoppe's No.9 High Viscosity Oil, but, I've heard so much about how FIREPOWER FP-10 reduces bore fouling that I bought a pint, I've haven't had the chance to see for myself yet, but I do have a new unfired barrel treated with it that should "tell the tale".
Mr. Schuemann has a very interesting section about Barrel Cleaning on his web site, scroll down on the left and you'll find it. www.schuemann.com
Take Care,
The Sockman
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