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Hello.

I was wondering if anyone here has tested any of the cheap JHPs that are available in most stores, specifically the WWB 147 grain JHP.

It is cheap at $10.97 per 50 rounds and very plentiful.

Right now its the only JHP that I can afford to run in my Glock 19 and I was wondering how well it performs.

Does anyone here plan on testing this or any other inexpensive ammunition?

Thank you for your time!
 

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GlockFan,

Check out Mr. Camp's original website, www.hipowersandhandguns.com. There is some relevant information there, whether you shoot a BHP or a Glock. I don't have any experience with the 147 grain load, but the 115 grain WWB sure does look, feel and act like a Silvertip without the e-nickel finish. My recollection is that the 147 grain Silvertip did reasonably well in Mr. Camp's tests and so, by analogy, might your WWB equivalent.

Mr. Camp, care to weigh in?
 

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Hello. It is my understanding that the Winchester USA line of JHP's are the Silvertips, but without the e-nickle finish. I've not checked the USA JHP's in the 147-gr. weight, but here is the average velocity (10 shots) when 147-gr. Silvertips were fired from a Browning Hi Power approx. 10' from the screens:

Average Velocity: 969 ft/sec
Extreme Spread: 39
Std. Deviation: 15


This 147-gr. STHP was recovered from super-saturated newsprint that had soaked for 24 hours and drained 30 mins before shooting. The expanded bullet measured 0.64 x 0.61 x 0.42 inches tall. Virtually no weight was lost. Expansion was quite consistent in wet pack, but no so consistent when fired into water. Sometimes expansion would occur; other times, no.

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Those Silvertips look exactly like the 147 JHPs Winchesters that I was talking about, so I guess you guys were right.

What exactly did the bullets fired into water do? Did they just flatten up (like the .380 Corbon I remember you posting) or was the expansion just very little?

Do you plan on doing any testing in the future?

Thanks again!
 

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Hello. Some flattened a little and partially expanded. Others didn't expand or deform at all other than the rifling marks! I don't have any plans on testing 147's unless something new comes out. The best performers seem to be Winchester Ranger, Rem Golden Sabers, or Speer Gold Dots.

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GlockFan,

If you must use the cheaper ammo, I would take a serious look at the Federal 9bp. It's about double the price around here, last I looked, but may have dropped.

Carry that and practice with WWB 115gr solids (here, about $12/100).

IOW, in standard pressure, I'd shy away from old technology 147gr...

Josh <><
 
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Thanks everyone!

Now I have some 127 +p+ Ranger T and just sent out the money for 3 boxes of 147 grain Ranger T.

Ive always wanted to try the 9BP but I never found any. I will check the gun store tommorow and might buy a box to see how accurate they are, but for now I think I will stick with the Rangers.
 
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Yeah, I live in the US (Kansas).

I might go to WalMart today and see if they have any. I never seen it on their shelves though, and would be somewhat pleased if they had it.

I used to prefer 124-127 grain bullets but now im leaning toward the 147 since they give deeper penitration (and from what ive seen, expansion with the 127 was nearly identicle to 147).

Thanks!
 
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Of the Cheap 9mm JHP ammunitions, I would go with the winchester JHP 115 grain. I am one of those people who believes that heavy subsonic 9mm ammunition is a waste of money. The 115 grain silvertip was well regarded by most users except the FBI.

That being said, 9mm's are very ammunition sensitive and if you are limited in you choices of ammunition, either get a 45 ACP or a revolver with soft lead SWCHP's or some semi jacketed HP's (like the old remington 357 SJHP 125 gr load, which is pretty much considered the best handgun defensive load ever).
 
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