[oberstlt]

BB, you make a good point. I have a young friend that managed to do the equivalent of gun plumbing on his strong had with a bit of alcohol and an auto. His index and middle fingers are a bit, well, trunucated. Now that he has survived to adulthood, he has found that an XD works much better for him than the Glock. Unlike the new S&W M&P you cannot adjust a Glock other than one of those melt jobs. The XD offers a nice reduction. I am uncertain as to which is more durable or reliable. Only time will tell.

 

[bangbang]

howdy Sir.

Hmm.. sounds a bit nasty. i was surprised to see such small flimsy looking rails on the Glock. I assume it would be manufactured from some kind of extremely hard and strong steel alloys and most likely deceiving to the eye on inspection but i like my "tools" to look like they have been built solid to last the distance. So yes time will tell.

we have Glocks in .40cal, 9mm and the XD in .357Sig on range which has proved to be very popular with our customers since we introduced it last month. they usually get feed between 500 to 1000 rounds before they are cleaned. so a bit of extra dirt in the mix will help with determining the reliability issues hopefully.

at least one of our customers has already purchased the XD (in 9mm from memory) so its only a matter of time before we get some feed back.

as far as the S&W-M&P goes i haven't really done much with that gun yet. the palm swell "kit" that comes with it is a good idea but not something you would want to change very often as i think the twist rod would wear quickly.

cheers BB.

 

[oberstlt]

BB, while I have butchered a few over the years and otherwise fouled them up, I have never yet worn one out. Being a man of the 20th Century, it never fails to amaze me that all this polymerness actually works at all! I have lots and lots of rounds thru my old steel stuff. Some thru a very small number of alloy things but my efforts to wear out the polymer or other plastic stuff is wearing me out.

My pal opens most of our conversations with his line of "I love Glock". He is a total convert and in addition to our Uncle Sam's Glock, he is pretty much a follower of near to anything plastic. He has the XD and the M&P as well. He chides me when I insist on doing the revolver thing or using my BHP or 1911s. There is nothing worse that a reformed anything.

Having said all that, there are some Glocks out there with more rounds thru them than I care to think of that "take a licking and keep on ticking" to misquote the old Timex ad. They may not be Rolex but they still do well.

I just purchased a Walther PPS to replace a KelTec PF-9. The fact that the KelTec worked at all left me in a complete quandry. I am simply not adjusting well to the 21st Century.

 

[bangbang]

hehehe,

well i guess that is why the world is such a colorful place and why we have so many different gun designs to choose from. because everyone has different personalities and different likes and dislikes. imagine how boring the world would be if we all had the same thing??

one other thing that niggles in the back of my mind is plastic always has a limited shelf life before it goes brittle and/or begins to breakdown. if you leave a plastic chair in the sunshine down here is Australia the sun will destroy it real fast because of the heat and UV rays. now I'm not suggesting we leave our guns laying around in the backyard, I'm just making a point is all.

I guess the younger generations are a throw away society anyway so they may not keep the things for too long. and as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow you can bet your bottom dollar the next big hi tech light weight tuff as nails product will soon hit the market and plastic frames will be a thing of the past too???

who knows..... :

BB

 

[lelandray]

I was waiting for someone to mention plastic breaking down. I left two 15-round Glock M19 magazines in the center console of my truck for quite some time, and when I went to get them out to shoot the ammo and replace it, I found that not one, but BOTH magazines had split wide open. The plastic was broken all the way from feed lips to base, and when I pried on it slightly, the plastic simply broke the way a plastic milk carton breaks up after being out in the sun for a long time. I had to replace both mags, but I did strip the springs, followers, and baseplates in order to have spare parts.

I guess the moral of this story is that the center console of an F150 is not a long term storage solution for plastic magazines, even though they were completely hidden from sunlight. I can only guess that the ambient heat broke them down over time.

This is yet again a plus for the XD, as its mag bodies are made of stainless steel, and I rather expect that if there is any failure in the baseplates, it would be quite inexpensive to replace them. I'm thinking about getting a couple of spares just in case.