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Hello,

Since I've been "playing around" with this old .22 rifle I have, and finding out that with proper optics and such I can hold a dime group at 50 yards - better if I'm in "the zone," I've been asking myself this question: In self-defense, how far does accuracy really go?

I've found that, with this rifle and a holdover on the proper graduation mark, I can lay out a squirrel at 100yds with good ammunition.

I can't do that with a pistol.

While I posted a similar scenario years back, this time you only get one gun:

If you're hiking in the woods, fields, or whatever you have locally, and you become sure that someone is stalking you with hostile intent, which would you prefer - a 9mm/.45 class pistol or a sub-MOA .22 loaded with high power rounds such as Velocitors?

I can see an argument for both - pinpoint accuracy would allow head shots, knee shots, and crotch shots. Maybe this wouldn't kill, but it would be hard for your follower to keep moving.

Small game drops at 100yds with Velocitors or Remington Golden bullets, so I have reason to believe they're expanding, or at least doing more damage than standard round nose as the local squirrel usually run after a thoratic hit with hardball. I have no idea of penetration at that range.

Now the pistol - While I recognize the skill of some here to make 100 yard shots with a .45acp or 9mm, the majority of us cannot, me included. I personally top out at 50 yards for a good torso hit. I would have to let the person get closer.

With the 'scoped rifle, I could check for weapons from distance as well.

So honestly, I really do not know what I would take if I only had to choose one. I usually carry both.

I'm leaning toward the .22 rifle though, no matter how underpowered it may be, if not for the wounding capabilities, then for the identification and "psychological stop" capabilities.

How about you?

Josh <><
 

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If I'm hunting small game with a .22 rifle I normally wouldn't be carrying a 9mm/.45 pistol so I'ld have to make do with the .22.

If I'm hiking in wilderness areas I usually do carry a large bore handgun for convenience (rather than a long gun) so I would have to make do again.

If I was going into the woods knowing someone in there was after me I would not choose either one and would prefer a center fire rifle or better yet I'ld stay home.

If I was in the woods and thought I was being hunted, I would move away, break contact, and get out of the area like pronto. I would not engage any stalker or initiate a violent attack.
 

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Hi Anderson,

The choice was between the way weak (for self-defense) cartridge, but precisely place, .22 LR, a not so precisely placed (because of the beast's nature) handgun round.

Assume you're taking fire and have to return.

Thank you for catching those omissions.

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I'ld prefer a long gun over almost any handgun. I can hit with a rifle and only hits count, but I have trouble with rimfires in general due to ammo reliability. seen too many misfires in .22 rf ammo.

But it depends on the abilities of the shooter. A real gunfighter is dangerous with a single shot .22, a less skilled citizen not so much.

And while I don't normally grab my .22 rifle to check out strange noises at night, I did investigate a house breakin with a .22 kit gun once. it was the only gun I had available at the moment!
 
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