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I just had a chance to handle one of these at my LGS today. The gun was incredibly light weight and fit my small hands almost as well as my Hi-Power.

Just curious, does anyone here own one or had a chance to fire one or know of any good sources of information?


Thanks,

Kent
 

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Kent..I fired one, for a few hours, a few months ago, in Arizona... basically it is a 20 round staggered mag which looked to be under made the round is the 5.7x28 mm and shoots the SS190 ball ammo, it was said it will defeat most military body armor, as well as the new kevlar helmets....it had low recoil, and no muzzel climb...giving quick follow up shots...but the muzzel blast was LARGE... did a little night time shooting....and found this not to my liking !!! comes in double action only and I found the trigger, to need some work, but I tent to shoot custom single action autos...so I am bias, trigger work, would be a must for me. the weighed was about a pound and one third, empty... and a little over a pound and a half loaded...so about 30% less then most 9mm. Designed for defeating body armor so a high fps design, one that would not work with any current sound suppression designs, shy of maybe the VHF sonic models. At the time I was told, it would not be released to the general public... to me, it lacked the old class of the FN, and was just a new tool, for the tool chest. .......Pax
 
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Pax,

Thanks for the information. My understanding was that the weapon was going to be a LEO/Military only sale, so I hadn't paid much atttention to it. When I asked the salesman, he said that FN made the decision to release the gun to the civilian market with a different type of ammo. He said that they had two boxes of ammo "one for each gun". The ammo he showed me, was a hollow point, and he said it is designed to *not* penetrate kevlar vests, etc. He also said that a new round will be coming out soon with a Hornady bullet. The bullet he showed me looked like a FMJ, but with an orange "plastic" tip.

The salesman said this particular round is suppose to be low penetration, and is designed to breakup if it makes contact with objects like walls.
 
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I heard the same thing, that the civilian round is different. Supposedly the military/LEO round yields 2400 ft/sec, and the civilian 1800.

Take it FWIW, a vendor at a gun show who had one of these FN's for sale told me the above.
 

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Anyone out there know of any police shooting stats with this pistol? Is it an "overglorified .22MRF," as some pundits call it, or does it have some application besides penetration in SS190 form? My understanding is that the initial ammo offered for it will be SS192 lead core HP, with the Hornady "varmint" bullets to follow. I guess my question is, is it practical/tactical, or do we use it to shoot coyotes and skunks around the farm?
 

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Certainly an interesting concept. I was offered an unfired but used one with 3 mags and a couple of boxes of ammo the other day for $700

I looked at it really close and just could not seem to make the connection between something that feels like an Air Soft gun and $700 ???

Dont get me wrong, this is a mental thing with me, not a slam on the quality of the gun. All FNs are probably well made no matter what material they are made from.

I will probably regret passing on this deal :'(

Onward,
jim
 
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... could not seem to make the connection between something that feels like an Air Soft gun and $700 ???

Dont get me wrong, this is a mental thing with me, not a slam on the quality of the gun. ...
Onward,
jim
I understand what you are saying Jim. When my wife first saw a Glock she said "It looks like a stapler!" I've never been able go get that image out of my mind.


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I understand what you are saying Jim. When my wife first saw a Glock she said "It looks like a stapler!" I've never been able go get that image out of my mind.


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ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I understand what you are saying Jim. When my wife first saw a Glock she said "It looks like a stapler!" I've never been able go get that image out of my mind.


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... well in a way, she is right - it just staples at a distance and things fall apart on the receiving end rather than stick together ;)

Onward!
Jim
 
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As I need to make a posting so I have one to my credit to remain active, this looked like a sufficient topic. I have a pair of FN Five-seveNs. Mine are the IOM (single action) variants with adjustable rear sights. The civilian ammo will not pierce body armor or kevlar helmets, but it does move very fast and, from what I have observed, performs much like a 5.56mm round with the revoil of a .22WMR. The other day I came across an article about someone's tests with wet phone books stacked end to end and the penetration was pretty impressive for a pistol of any caliber. The caliber and weapon are an interesting novelty for civilian use, but I haven't come up with much for ideas as to what to do with it outside of work. I guess it is like shooting .22WMR for the price of .357. Though, I do think, the caliber would be pretty neat in a short-action bolt rifle like the Ruger 77/22 series. Should be great for varmint control out of a rifle. Maybe one of these days I will try building one out of a 77/22-type action to try it.
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We had an IOM for evaluation for a few weeks. It was reliable and had very little recoil. Everybody that got a chance to shoot it seemed to enjoy it and there was a lot of interest, since there was an informational bulletin that it was supposed to be able to shoot through soft body armor. We had only the practice/hollow point SS192 ammo to test since it was going to take 60-90 days to get the SS190 duty ammo drop shipped to us. The practice ammo averaged 2025 FPS in our gun. Dept. didn't order any, but I was tempted to buy the loaner gun ( $799.00), but didn't quite know what I'd do with it. We finished with the gun about the time the ammo price started to go up. Fun and interesting, but I'd kinda like to see the caliber in a small bolt actiom rifle too.
 
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