I talked to a friend who had been in a shooting with an armed suspect several weeks ago and thought there might be some helpful hints to pass on. The encounter happened at about 5 ft distance with the suspect raising his pistol up. My friend had a .357 Sig with the 125 gr Speer HP. 2 double taps center mass put the guy down on the ground, but the subject started to raise his arm with the pistol again and 1 more shot required to stop the suspect. My friend stated that he was a little surprised that it took so much to stop this guy. It just goes to show that even when using "magnum" type rounds that the bad guys don't always drop in their tracks and sometimes even a double tap is not enough. This is something to keep in mind in deciding your choice of carry weapon.