Any CZ 75 Fans?

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Stephen A. Camp

Discussion Starter · Nov 9, 2004

Hello. The title pretty well says it all. Though internally more complicated than the Hi Power or Glock, these things seem to work reliably and most folks like the way they feel and look.

Count me in. I have a couple of the early CZ-75's and have been shooting them since the '80's with no problems.

Best.

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Josh Smith

· #2 · Nov 9, 2004

Mr. Camp,

I've not shot one... however, what is the model number of the one that has an ambi safety (no decocker?) in 9mm?

That is one I'm getting more interested in, and may finally have to try out...

Stephen A. Camp

Discussion Starter · #3 · Nov 9, 2004

Hello. I believe it's the CZ-85.

Best.

abninftr

· #4 · Nov 9, 2004

CZ 85 it is.

I have a CZ75, but it is the old one with the spur hammer. It's a super gun to shoot, with good ergonomics and excellent accuracy. I don't shoot it often because being left handed I have to basically use in as a DA gun.

G

· #5 · Nov 9, 2004

I like the looks of them, and they feel nice, but there is something about them that keeps me from getting one. I just never have felt right about buying one.

G

· #6 · Nov 10, 2004

I am sort of a cz 75 fan. I have shot a few of them, but have never brought myself to buy one. The primary reason is it's inability to be deocked without pulling the trigger. As a single action auto, it seems to be a safe, reliable, pretty high capacity pistol (kind of a cross between a sig P210 and a Hi Power). However, as a double action, I just cannot get used to the trigger initiated decocking. As a result of this, I have never bought one, despite thinking that it really is a good design overall.

It would definitely be a good range gun, but as a 9mm single action carry piece I can't justify the extra size over a hi-power to get 2 more rounds.

jimhigginbotham

· #7 · Nov 10, 2004

There are a handfull of designs that, were a 1911 not an option, I would have a tough time selecting between the alternatives. The CZ design is one of those.

I truly regret that Springfield Armory discontinued their rendition of the Tanfoglio clone for they were extremely well made and also made of very hard steel (harder than Colts or Brownings).

I recently purchased the real CZ that had a Doktor red dot on it (which I wanted to put on a long gun). Before taking it off I shot the gun and found out that #1 my eyes must be really deteriating as I shot the gun with the dot much better (not that I would consider one for serious purposes) and #2 that a box stock CZ is extremely accurate.... it shot 3 types of duty ammo into less than 1" at 25 yards (I can only hold 2 to 2.5" with the iron sights I put on the same gun).

The two drawbacks I see to the CZ for general use are that the slide mounting within the frame hampers quick slide operation for clearing malfuncitions and it has no decocker for those who like to use the DA feature (I don't personally care since I carry it cocked and locked).

Basically a good design, right up there with the best. I like the Browning a bit better but then you can get a CZ clone in .45, 10mm and Super .38.

It is a good thing 1911s are available or I would be pulling what hair I had left out

Onward!
Jim

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davejames

· #8 · Nov 11, 2004

Nice weapon, and one that fits just about any one,, I have one that was imported from Canada back in the late 60's early 70's, still going strong.

Would love to find one of the swiss copies in DAO, I think it was Sphinx that made them

Bob Reed

· #9 · Nov 11, 2004

Hello,

I believe the CZ 75's are quality guns... I just wish they still had the Round Trigger Guard.

Take Care,
THE SOCKMAN

G

· #10 · Nov 11, 2004

The CZ-75B is readily available in a decocker as the CZ-75BD and as a dedicated single action as a CZ-75SA.

Bo

corky

· #11 · Nov 12, 2004

My CZ75 Compact rates up there with the HiPower and S&W 39 in regard to grip comfort for me. Also CZs are quite inexpensive when compared to other quality pistols. The CZ75 sells around here (South Louisiana) for less than $400 NIB.

jimhigginbotham

· #12 · Nov 12, 2004

The CZ-75B is readily available in a decocker as the CZ-75BD and as a dedicated single action as a CZ-75SA.

Bo

Doesn't the DB have the decocker on the slide. I haven't run into a serious gunman yet who would accept a "dingus" up on the slide...you would not beleive the ammount of problems we have with it in military classes.

Best regards,
Jim

G

· #13 · Nov 12, 2004

I too like the CZ after having shot two, one from the early to mid 1980's brought back by a soldier whose last duty station was in West Germany and another from only a couple of years ago and commercially imported. Both felt and shot well. I particularly liked the option for cocked n' locked carry, since at the time I was a regualr 1911 packer.

G

· #14 · Nov 12, 2004

Doesn't the DB have the decocker on the slide. I haven't run into a serious gunman yet who would accept a "dingus" up on the slide...you would not beleive the ammount of problems we have with it in military classes.

Best regards,
Jim

No it is on the frame. All safeties and decockers from CZUB are on the frame.

Hello, my name is clipse and I'm a CZaholic. I am a CZ freak. I had a CZ P-01 and sold it so I can get a 1911. I also have a CZ 75B that is Nickel plated. I have spent the last year learning as much as I can about the CZ line. They are just really hard to beat. Supposedly by the end of 2005 they will come out with the 75B in Stainless. I will be one of the first ones on the list for that one.

Here is my 75B. I hold it very near to my heart. My grandmother wanted me to have it so she bought it for me. Actually she gave me the money and I bought it but it is still a gift form her and I will never part with it.

clipse

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jimhigginbotham

· #15 · Nov 12, 2004

No it is on the frame. All safeties and decockers from CZUB are on the frame. <snip>

Man I need to see one of those!
Thanks,
Jim

slidestop

· #16 · Nov 13, 2004

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G'day Mr Camp, as I've said before, Mr Brownings first born has been my mate for over 30 years but then I discovered his younger child and lost my heart. This past year, after reading your critique of the CZ 75, I became unfaithful again and am obsessed.
These three are all equal in my harem, 1911, P-35 and the CZ 75B, alas my heart can stand no more.

SS

proco

· #17 · Nov 13, 2004

I am a fan of the CZ 75B SA. It's a real fun shooter. Shoots anything you put in it. Bought it when I was in between Hi-powers. I was a little concerned about the 'plastic' stick trigger. Warmed up to it real quick. No problems at all. Good value for the money.

- Pat

G

· #18 · Nov 15, 2004

I have a CZ75B-SA (single action) 9mm. I've had it the better part of a year and am still getting used to it. I find that it is more difficult for me to shoot well because I am accustomed to 1911 triggers. But when I do my part, it does as well.

The one drawback I have noticed is that many of the factory springs in the CZ seem to be too weak from the get go or wear out quickly. I have already replaced the recoil spring (right out of the box), the magazine springs, the slide stop spring, and the extractor spring. All of these, with the exception of the slide stop spring, are available from Wolff. I expect that with the Wolff springs all will be well. The main problems that these weak springs cause are 1) locking open of the slide with ammo remaining in the mag, and 2) failure to extract.

Once this initial troubleshooting is taken care of, I'm looking forward to putting many rounds downrange with this gun.

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adguy

· #19 · Nov 16, 2004

I just bought a CZ 2075 RAMI. It's a sub-compact (3" barrel) of the CZ 75 family.
This is my first CZ. It has been 100% reliable right out of the box. The trigger needs work. The grip is a little short. This is a 24 oz, small double stack 9mm that is very accurate for a little gun.

My neighbor has a CZ Compact that is a tack driver. I'm hoping with some trigger work this will be as well.

I don't know why these economical pistols have not caught on.

It will never replace my Hi Powers. They are still the most accurate and fun to shoot for me.

Stephen A. Camp

Discussion Starter · #20 · Nov 16, 2004

Hello. In reading replies, it seems that we do have some CZ fans here.

I noted a concern over springs. It's been my observation that this is a valid concern and that a year or two ago, Mike Eagleshield at CZ-USA began getting numerous calls for slide stop replacements. Seems that the recoil springs being supplied by the factory were a very weak 10-lbs. I use 18 lb. springs in my well-used '75's as I shoot nothing lighter than standard velocity and somewhat warmish handloads. They've worked like a peach, but others trying the same report stove pipes, failures to eject and so forth.

I can think of but two reasons:

1. Not as firm a grip, or

2. The guns have not been shot as much as mine and so the slide doesn't run quite as smoothly as it will after several thousand rounds.

In any event, I do think going to a 16-lb. Wolff conventional recoil spring is a good thing.

For those shooting the CZ-75 single-action guns, I THINK that CZ offers a steel trigger replacement. I've read of but two incidents where the plastic trigger broke so it might not be that big of a deal, but wanted to mention this option.

With respect to the 1911 pattern guns: With but a little trigger work or luck, these have the triggers to beat. I'm really not sure that it can be done. They can be that good. While I truly believe that, I also believe that quite good triggers can be had with the CZ and Hi Power guns.

Best.

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