[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello. Just a quick hypothetical for folks here! (I generally been pretty impressed with the quality of questions and responses to various ideas and positions put forth. Thank you all for doing this.)

Consider these two calibers only with regard to semiautos: 9x19mm and .45 ACP.

If you could have the .45 only in a conventional DA/SA semiauto w/o cocked-and-locked capabilities (SIG-Sauer, S&W, etc) or a 9x19mm in single-action (ala Browning, 1911, CZ with its frame-mounted safety), would you opt for the DA/SA .45 or the cocked-and-locked 9mm?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

Best.

 

[Guest]

Steve and all,

Tough question. DA/SA in .45 ACP or a BHP SA in 9mm.

As good as the SIG220 is, I'd opt for the single action BHP in 9mm and stoke it with a load of proven proformance. Probably the Ranger 127gr +P+ or CorBon 115/125 gr. +P.

Wes

 

[Guest]

Well, as I've stated in other threads, I have no faith in the 9mm cartridge. That makes the choice easy for me, even though I don't care for DA autos. I have handled a few that were okay. It would be the DA 45 for me, hands down.

 

[zeke]

Definitly the SA 9mm. Decision based on being used to the SA trigger pull on my 9mm's. The switch to the other trigger system would require alot of practice and adjustment.

 

[Josh Smith]

Sir,

I'm used to both action types as the Taurus I carry is capable of each and I carry it in the mode for which I perceive the need.

I would go with the 9x19 in SA only. Though I carry in SA mostly in the woods, I've done so in town also. No real difference to me as my thumb comes down on the safety either which way.

Josh <><

 

[jimhigginbotham]

Steve;
I never really realized that you had a sadistic side

That is really tough. OK would a S&W 99 in .45 qualify? - that would be it.

Baring that, a Sig 220 which would be carried cocked in a good holster ( I actually know someone who does this but I can't really recommend it).

But it is a close thing, can I have the Browing in 9mm as a backup

Onward,
Jim

 

[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello, Mr. H, and others. I appreciate the responses and as you can see, the question is just another way of asking which is more important to the individual, caliber or action. I appreciate that we have different answers as well as some that are the same and can have this discussion w/o problems.

Sadistic? Man, I don't even like to think of being w/o my Hi Powers or 1911's, but right now, based on my own experiences and observations I'd go with the single-action 9mm Hi Power in this scenario, but IF that didn't fly, I'd go with a SIG-Sauer P220 or perhaps a USP. (I have never been able to shoot the USP as well as the P220.) So for me, I'd go with the 9mm single-action over the .45 DA at least intially.

Best.

 

[jimhigginbotham]

Steve;
I too appreciate that there are different answers and that none of them are wrong.

We all get a bit carried away with our personal choice but in the final analysis:

It is not the weapon - it is the WEAPONCRAFT!

Onward,
Jim

 

[Bob Reed]

Hello,

For me, it would be The 9mm FN/Browning... Without even thinking twice!

Take Care,
The Sockman

 

[pgm]

No question, the BHP with a reasonable load.

 

[mueller]

Browning would be my choice as the 9mm has done it for me in the past and would do it again in the future.

The DA is okay and if there was no other option, I would grab it and a few thousand rounds and be off to the range.

To borrow from others...Placement, Placement, Placement....


Regards, Mueller

 

[lelandray]

My placement of the first shot with the BHP is better (and appreciably faster) than with any other gun or caliber. If the placement of the first shot is important, then I'll go with the Browning.

 

[briand]

Stephen has come up with sort of a "Kobiashi Maru" question. Suppose I'll pull a Kirk here and opt for getting a Glock 21 with Robarized grip reduction--at Mr. Camp's expense of course--and have my 45 caliber cake and reach the trigger too!

What, the Glock's not a "conventional DA/SA"? Okay, I'll just use my BHP and some CorBons. None of those DA .45s fit me too well, though I've done some decent range work with a S&W 645 and a Sig 220.

 

[michael]

BHP in 9mm -- no questions, doubts, or vacillating necessary

.

My discrimination is based on two chief reasons:

1. Action - I much, much prefer a decent single action over any form of DA/SA, DAO, etc.

2. Caliber - I like the .45 ACP too, but do not feel undergunned with my BHP 9mm as I carry reputable, quality ammunition including Remington Golden Sabers (124 gr. +P), Winchester Rangers (LEO issue 147 gr. +P+), Speer Gold Dots, or PMC Starfires (124 gr.). I have fired many rounds of each of these without a single bobble of any type, and accuracy is fine with each. Currently I carry the Golden Saber round.

Pssst... Stephen, can I still keep my Baer and Colt .45's?

Sincerely,

Michael

 

[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello and thanks to all for their responses. I do appreciate them.

Best.

PS: Yes, we ALL keep our preferred single-action autos be they HP's or 1911's.

 

[strider72]

Browning Hipower.... like there was a choice :

 

[Guest]

You know, this kind of question puts me in a serious quandry. I really don't care much whether I carry a .45 or a 9mm, maybe a slight advantage to the .45. As far as platform is concerned, I've carried SA and TDA without problems. The Hi-Power bites me so I'd have to go with a 1911 or CZ but the Sig 220 would probably get the nod.
This whole thing just makes me realize that I have no loyalty to anything, SA or DA, high cap or single stack, big bore or medium bore. It all depends on how the gun feels in my hand.

 

[Chris Stephens]

Hi there Stephen,

My overall choice for Action Type vs. Caliber would be the HP design in 9 mm.

As previously mentioned, I believe that multiple shot placement and my familiarity in the single action manual of arms is more important than the larger calibre in a DA/SA .45 ACP.

Chris

 

[1911dave]

OK, would choosing a Para LDA be considered "cheating" for the purposes of this thread? I'm not a fan of DAO, or even DA/SA, but even I have to admit it's pretty shootable, and not many will argue against the caliber.

 

[ka0azs]

Browning Hi Power

Of course my answer to almost any question is Browning Hi-Power