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I just heard today about a current event where a home was burgularized by 3 men, 1 of which was armed with a pistol. These 3 thugs held the husband and wife homeowners at gunpiont while they went around and collected items to steal. At one point the armed thug decided to pistol whip the husband in the head for good measure.. doing this caused the magazine to fall out of the pistol.

When the husband/wife team saw the magazine fall from the gun they figured they had a chance against the robbers; presumably assuming the gun was no longer a threat, and proceeded to beat the 3 robbers from their home.

No shots were fired and the report didn't say what type of pistol was used. I heard this story on Wayne Resnick's AM talk show on KFI 640, on his 'wacky police blotter' segment.

This is a classic example of why magazine disconnects are terrible things for pistols to have. Granted ..in this case it was a good thing.

Since I live in the people's republic of california, I am limited to 10rd magazines. So, I believe I will purchase a Browning High Power in .40 and I will remove that 'wacky' magazine disconnect and never look back!

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Emmigrate: a good idea, I'll be back in the army soon if all works out.

9mm: the beretta I had in the army broke while I was qualifying (broken return spring).
the G19 I used to own was fine but had an uninspiring (boring) recoil.

.40: the HK and G23 I have fired reminded me that I was shooting an actual gun.
.45: nice. More 'push' recoil than the .40 'snap' recoil vs. the 9mm 'pop' recoil.

A frank off topic question: if "you" were to be shot once, which caliber would you rather be shot with? Assume same ammo ..say Golden Saber, and assume same range and entry point. Assume an area like in the chest.. but not the heart. I would personally choose the weakest round as I dragged my happy bleeding self to the hospital.

Of course we all know that placement is king. Things don't always work out the way we want though.

Another off topic thought: if I can't find a .40 FN HP for $499 new at the local shop like there was a few months ago because there are only browning stamped ones for $750 being imported, I will desert to the finest pistol I have ever fired IMO ..the sig P220. The HP is just so beautiful though.

Happy Trails!
 

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Howdy christobyl,

I think there is a lot to be said for the Sig P220 actually. I know they are not cheap, but they do have the CPO (certified pre owned) program. That will save you a good chunk off their retail cost and you know it has been brought back to 100% by the factory as well.

If it interests you at all, they are now making the P220 in stainless on a steel frame with rails too.

You might also want to take a hard look at a CZ-75B in either 9mm or 40. They give you an awful lot of pistol in my opinion, at a very reasonable cost. Sooner or later they will become better known and their prices will climb up with the other excellent pistols.

Just wanted to throw some thoughts out for you to consider. Let us know what you end up getting.

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A frank off topic question: if "you" were to be shot once, which caliber would you rather be shot with? Assume same ammo ..say Golden Saber, and assume same range and entry point. Assume an area like in the chest.. but not the heart.
That's a no-brainer: The smallest caliber of the ones you listed (9mm) as, all things being equal as you stated, it will likely produce the smallest permanent wound cavity and the least tissue damage.
 
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twoguns: thanks for the info about the CPO thing, I didn't know that existed. My heart wants the FN HP but my mind wants the P220. I really only can afford to buy one pistol. I'll let you all know about what I get.

nevadaalan: i agree as well. That's why I am looking away from the 9mm. Eventhough I would not want to be shot by one!
 

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Mr. Christobyl,

You are welcome sir. The first person I know that had personal experience with the CPO pistols is Chris Stephens, another member here. From what Mr. Chris has told me, a dealer has to be designated a Sig distributor to qualify to participate in the program. (I sort of see it as a way of Sig thanking a dealer for carrying their weapons, but I could be wrong on that one - just my personal opinion).

So you may not be able to find every dealer able to order a CPO Sig for you. Just keep looking and you will find one who can order you one. Some Sig models are now offered on the steel frame and have a tactial rail too. I know the 226, 229 and 220 have those options. As to whether or not they would be available under the CPO program, sorry I simply have no idea.

Also Mr. Chris, you are my "expert" on the CPO program, so please feel free to correct me if I erred at all, or to add your thoughts since you own one.

Hope this helps a bit. Good luck in your quest.

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Hi there,

Mr. twoguns is absolutely correct. The CPO (certified preowned) program gives some of us guys/ladies a chance to get in a very high quality pistol at a very reasonable price. The P226R I bought looks brand new.

I would definately suggest contacting an authorized SIGARMS dealer to get the best deal/quality on these handguns. They are reputed to be "graded" at the factory based on condition.

Best of luck,

Chris
 

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Christobly, I just purchased a FN HP 40 cal. from CDNN.com for $439.00 plus $$12.00 S&H to my FFL, $.50.00 for a total of $501.00. That would be to you because my wife now wants jewlery when I buy a "NEW" gun. So you'll get off cheaper than I thanks to one of the forum members I won't mention now. HE KNOWS WHO HE IS!
 
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