[ace3]

I am looking to get a 9mm. I have a Hi Power and am looking for something different. I have narrowed it down to three guns. The Glock M-34, Sig 226 ST, and the CZ -75 when it comes to this country in Stainless. I am open to any comments or suggestions. Out side of the Glock I would prefer steel frames. And the full size gun. Use will be for the range and the long sight radius is for over 50 eyes, I still like open sights. They just need to be a little further out. Thanks look forward to your input.

 

[Guest]

If you are looking for a range pistol (plinking and competition), I suggest the Sig 226 ST because I am partial to Sigs. They have the most tolerable TDA trigger. Also, the weight of the stainless steel 226 will make the 9X19 round a pop gun to shoot. If you want a cocked and locked option (similar to your HP), then the CZ-75 is the way to go. This pistol can also be ordered as a single-action only model should you prefer one. I would pass on the Glock because the Glock trigger is the pits.

 

[Guest]

I have both a SIG-226 (in 9mm and .40) and also a CZ-85 Combat. The latter is not only less expensive it has a better trigger and IMO, better ergonomics. The CZ handles and points more naturally than a SIG.

Ditto on the Glock's awful trigger. I recently thought about getting a G-35 (with the "light" trigger) but after I shot one I hated the gun altogether. Not only trigger but grip size, angle and location of trigger/ triggerguard were horrible.

 

[ace3]

Thanks for the comments. The trigger and the sights are the interface to the gun. I do not own a poly pistol and I am not sure that my heart is in it. Two for Steel, wood grips and good trigger. I just picked up 9mm Remington's for $4.76 a box out the door so I stocked up. Thats a lot of practice for the money. Makes the 9mm very attractive. I will keep you posted

 

[Guest]

I like the Glock..I don't have one, but I still like it..Sigs are nice..I carry my Sig 229 .40 everywhere I go..the CZ-75 is available in stainless..and not a bad cheap way to go

 

[Guest]

The Glock trigger is hardly "the pits". I would call a twelve pound first shot trigger pull the pits (hello SIG and Beretta). With a bit of polishing (or a lot of firing), the Glock trigger can be quite smooth. It is a clear "two stage" design, with a lot of slack until resistance is met, then a snappy letoff. With the G34, the 3.5 pound connector would give an even snappier letoff than the standard 5 pound model. For a solid self-defense pistol, the G19 is hard to beat. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Guest]

I'd encourage you to ad a CZ P01 to your list for consideration.

Not a conventional fullsize pistol, it was developed according to specs that required shooting accuracy equivalent to the fullsize 75.

I no longer own one for various reasons, but I regard it as the most ergonomic pistol on the market. It is easy to shoot well too.

 

[Josh Smith]

There's always the Taurus 92 though the last example I examined was less than stellar with plastic sights.

Resale value is not high so you could pick one up for a song like I did (and it just ended up my favorite pistol - from those I've owned anyway). It will hold around 2" @ 25yds.

The trigger on my example is better than the Beretta - 8lbs DA, 5lbs SA.

Josh <><

 

[Guest]

I really like my CZ75 Compact. Regards, Richard

 

[Chris Stephens]

Hi there,

I owned a G-35 and loved it! Great trigger and decent out of the box sights.

Although I like the CZ-75 and have shot one many times down at the range, I do like the Glock for pure ergonomics. I would try shooting all of your choices before I put my money down.

Chris

 

[Guest]

Go to a gun show, play with everything you can find, then take something home.

Thats what I do when the mind fails to decide on its own. In fact, if I were you, the CZ-75 would be my new friend that followed me home. That's the next one on the list (unless I can find an affordable Sig P-220).

 

[ace3]

Thank you all for the great replies. I was a a gun shop this week and looked over the Kahr T9. Very nice gun. Stainless steel, wood grips, adjustable sights clean lines single stack grip and the DAO trigger was very nice. I do like to shoot revolvers. Any one know any thing about these guns?

 

[poppy]

hey Ace3, I have both the Kahr P9 and KP9. They both shoot nice for such compact guns. I got the KP9 for potential CCW, but the P9 would see more range time. poppy

 

[flagaman]

Can't speak for the CZ, but have owned a Sig and now own a G17 Glock as well as a couple of hi powers. The Glock has never disappointed me with it's performance. Trigger improves nicely with some work, but the factory sights do leave you a little wanting. For my 2 cents I would have no problem picking the Glock.

 

[bullittorange]

Heres my take on it:

I had a CZ-75b in the polycoat and never had a single stoppage with it. The trigger wasn't great out of the box, but did get noticeably better over the first 500 rds or so. Felt very similiar to a HP in the hand and would group with pretty much anything in the service pistol class. Sold it because I can be a very stupid person. Readily available full cap magazines make this a better buy now.

The Sig will probably be very reliable, heavy, have a good da/sa trigger, kind of hard to work on, very accurate and the priciest. M229 is the most accurate .40 I've shot and has had only one ftf in 3k rounds.

I've had a good bit of experience with glocks. The trigger takes some getting used to, but you can get used to it. The grip on the other hand is harder for me to get used to. I've had 4 or 5 of these the most accurate was a G30 and the least was the G23, but even that one wasn't too bad. I know that every manufacturer has its ups and downs and I have seen broken Glocks, but I have never personally had any kind of stoppage with any of my glocks. That is a big deal to me. I currently only own 9mm variants, and they are not my favorite pistols, but they have a terrible tendency of never letting me down at the range. They are easy to maintain and work on if the need arises, and factory parts are everywhere. I would imagine the G34 will be more accurate than most of us. You may want to pick up a used G17, they can be had for less of a layout than the G34 and they are pretty easy to get rid of if you decide glocks are not for you.

 

[ace3]

I had the opportunity to get to Chestnut Mountain Sports and talk with Karl Sokol Gunsmith and owner. He is going to work on my Hi Power. Trigger work, re-crown the barrel, tighten the safety and polish the feed ramp. Karl took the time to talk with me and go over the options for the gun. A truly enjoyable visit, nothing like talking guns in the mountains of Vermont. I will follow up on the results. Best

 

[abninftr]

Karl is indeed a class act, and his work is abslolutely top notch.

 

[Guest]

I wouldn't pick a Glock for range shooting. It's VERY much a military pistol; weird trigger; not very tuneable, more tolerances everywhere and I don't like the feel and looks either. For self-defense it's great but not for range work as is yr question. I don't know the SIG but it is said to be very accurate. I do know the CZ75 which is one of the finest shooting pistols around. Can't go wrong with these. Don't know the Kahr pistols.

 

[mikehp]

Ace3, its not on your list, but look at Springfield 1911 9mm's. I have 2 in ss, shoot great and the controls are the same as HP. Mikehp

 

[ace3]

Mikehp, A friend has one of the Springfield's in SS. And another has an older model that was made in the 1980's and not by the current Springfield Co. They are great guns. I should put it on the list. Question for you. were do you get the recoil springs?