Josh - back in the day (when I could see my feet standing), I was authorized one 500 round box of 3D Reloads in 38 Special per week by my Department for practice. We used to buy it for qualification by the boxcar load. They were the only commercial reloads I remember back in 77-78. 148 grain wadcutters as mild as you could make them. As I recall to hit at 60 yards, you aimed at the top of the head. Wow that is a blast from the past!