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Old 01-26-2019, 05:29 AM   #1
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38 Cal Lee Flaring die issue

While flaring the case mouth on 38 brass (old and new) I get a hang up while lowering the case from the die. Happens about 1/2 way down. I have to apply extreme pressure on ram to get all the way out or apply a quick jolt. I have taken die apart and cleaned with mineral spirits but still same problem. Has anyone else experienced this or am I doing something wrong. What questions can I answer to get some help with this issue? BTW I did try to search here for an answer to no avail.

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Old 01-26-2019, 01:23 PM   #2
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The flaring portion of the powder through/flaring die is, reportedly, left rough so that the case is "shaken"as it is removed, loosening any powder not fallen into the case. Is your brass "really clean" as in wet tumbled and nekkid brass? Clean brass, no oil, soot, or lube will have a tendency to grab (and gall in some circumstances). It wouldn't hurt to disassemble the die and polish the flaring portion, and lube a case mouth now and then.
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Old 01-27-2019, 06:55 AM   #3
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Yes sir, That's what I thought

Unfortunately, I have been using brand new Star Line brass and cleaned 1X brass all shot from my GP100. I did take the die apart and cleaned and polished, (with a dremel) still sticks. I tried using a fast motion on the retraction stroke and it's a little better but still sticks a lot more than my 9mm die. On just normal action it almost feels like I'm going to knock my bench over. When I watch YouTube videos, it seems like just normal stroking action is all that should be needed. I hope I don't have to start lubing my 38 & 357 brass. Next step might be to call Lee and possibly buy a different flaring die. I never use the powder through portion of the die.

Sure hope someone has a solution on this forum. Thanks for replying.
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I have been using Lee dies for over 40 years and while some will exhibit the "rough" withdrawal, none have been excessive as you mention. I think I might try a bit of lube in the case mouth to see if that will help (with a couple of my handgun cases I'll use a bit of lube on every 5th or 6th case). Or slightly change the angle on the flare. Just WAGs as I can't see the problem happening...
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The EXPANDER portion is there to expand the case ID and the case ID should be 0.001-0.002" under the bullet diameter being used. It is a combination flare/expander die.
If the expander is rough, call the company and get another one. I had one from Lee that was very rough and they replaced it when I called.
If you have removed the important dry lube from the case ID (the soot), then you have bare, polished brass rubbing hard against bare steel, where the brass has some springbuck to hold it even tighter. In this case, you may need to dip the case mouth in some graphite powder or such to replace the soot you removed. I don't like any oils/greases in the case ID. This isn't needed for every case, as some graphite is left behind, but it isn't going to stay there over very many more cases.
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