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Old 07-11-2008, 01:05 PM   #1
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Hello,



This has been covered before, but it's come down to being a reality for a bit, so I figured I'd bring it back up.



I got a tetanus shot the other day, and since, my weak arm has gotten progressively weaker. This is normal, and could last up to over a week.



However, it's hard to support my strong hand while shooting.



Here are the techniques I use:



1. Target stance. You know, the "weak hand in the pocket" stance. The difference is that I modified this a bit by tipping the sights inboard a couple degrees, ala Twoguns. It works better.



2. I bring the gun up as in a two handed hold, only use one hand. The sights are right there.



3. The old FBI crouch. I put my weak arm (if possible) over my chest and crouch while drawing and pointing.



4. For very up close practice, I draw, tip my hand outward (palm up) to lock my wrist, and fire from the hip. It seems to work out to three yards, but is best within a yard.



Is there anything I'm missing? I can't make hits as quickly and recoil control is not what it usually is, but I can still reload, thank God for small favors, albeit a bit more slowly.



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Old 07-11-2008, 06:01 PM   #2
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For some strange reason, even though I'm primarily left handed, I shoot better when using one hand using my right. I suppose this goes back to my IPSC days, we were required at times to shoot an entire match weak hand only so I have many hours invested in this. to be honest, I'd have to go shoot some to even be able to say where my left hand is positioned when shooting right hand only, this being that I've done it so long it has become second nature. Two things I have learned when shooting face to face, lean back just a bit to ensure hits not being too low and to never allow the muzzle to protrude over a foot in front of me, this to help prevent my target being able to sweep my handgun.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:54 PM   #3
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Try Ayoob's technique of Canting the gun when shooting with the Non-Dom eye, it works and is very fast.
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WHO (weak hand only) shooting is very difficult to do well but should be part of the repertoire for the serious handgunner. When I was at Thunder Ranch, the technique taught was to put the weak foot forward, lean into the gun at the waist, lock the arm and cant the sight in to the dominant eye at about 30 degrees. It was slow but at close range delivered adequate results.



Shooting from retention was also done WHO but involved planting the gun on the pectoral muscle with a full 45 degree outboard tilt. Done at arms length only, it would put a pattern a bit low on the target but this was a function of the height of the shooter.
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Shooting from retention was also done WHO but involved planting the gun on the pectoral muscle with a full 45 degree outboard tilt. Done at arms length only, it would put a pattern a bit low on the target but this was a function of the height of the shooter.


Actually, Pectoral Index Retention Shooting should place your rounds COM at anything from 'kissing' to punching distance.

Properly done (in training at least), the non-firing hand should be in a head high blocking position or face strike. That sholuld/will keep your hand and arm out of the LOF.



That at least is what I've been teaching/using for about 2 decades or so.
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Howdy folks,



I just wanted to clarify something Josh said ala twoguns. I was not taught to cant the gun inward a few degrees. I was taught when shooting one handed (either strong or weak hand) to lock the elbow fully and cant the pistol inward approximately 45 degrees. That is a bit more than "a few" and I just wanted to clarify that.



That amount of cant is alleged to give a more complete use of the muscles in the arms, and does for me and others who use it, much faster and more accurate round placements.



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Assuming we are talking weak hand/dominant eye, or one left/one right, shooting, the 'a little' cant is a by-product of body mechanics. Your hand will naturally tilt a little bit as you bring the gun to and across the body axis into visual alignment and the elbow and shoulder lock out.
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Howdy folks,



Well I can't really address the weak hand/dominant eye issue at all. I am one of those weird, but I feel fortunate folks, who were taught to do their serious shooting with both eyes open. Ever since my first police qualification, that is simply how I have fired handguns. So for me, when I have that 45 degree inward cant the pistol sights are still aligned properly (not upright obviously), but the sights are basically off the end of my nose, since I am using both eyes to get my sight picture.



This was simply the technique I was taught in a gun school, that I have found to be very effective in allowing me to shoot tighter and faster groups one handed, using both my strong and weak hands. But as has been suggested, one hand shooting to me is simply a survival skill that all of us should include in our normal tactical training. It is simply a very viable tool we should all keep in our personal tool box we can draw upon.



My shooting stance for one handed shooting is basically a straight iso stance, as we were also taught a technique for quickly moving the weapon from one hand into the other for continuing one hand shooting. Part of the smooth exchange was based on facing the target squarely, so we would push the handgun out directly in front of our nose, canted inward, and as our elbow locked into place, we were firing our first round.



But regardless of the method/system folks use when practicing their one hand shooting, what is more important to me is that they do consistently practice it until it is a very natural skill they have to fall back on. Of course, along with that is practicing one hand reloads, as doing so is simply real world in my view, and goes hand in hand (no pun intended) with one hand shooting.



Just my thoughts. But whatevery method seems to work well for you, I do encourage folks to practice one hand shooting on a regular basis, to first develop and then maintain their proficiency with it.



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I've always made it a point to practice once a session using my weak hand. After attending LFI I stress it now.
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Old 04-18-2009, 12:07 PM   #10
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Odds are, in a defensive encounter your support hand is going to be busy holding a light, pushing a family member to safety or defelcting a contact weapon held by a bad guy or gal.



Thus I think the wise and prudent person would stress one handed shooting in their practice. Another reason to learn one handed shooting, support/weak hand too, is that people get shot in the gun hand/arm quite a bit in gunfights.



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