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Old 06-03-2009, 04:15 PM   #1
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First of all, I've lurked here and other handgun forums for about 3 months in order to read as much as possible and learn as much as possible.



My father (due to his failing health) gifted me a 73C Browning Hi-Power, and although I've had some experience back in my teenage years firing .22 caliber pistols and a wide array of shotguns, I'm taking a "newbie" or inexperienced approach to this handgun and subsequent training.



My plan is to take some sort of NRA Beginner Handgun Course and then progress into more advanced defensive handgun training courses and join a local range.



I guess my questions are:



1) What should I buy initially, before going to a range? I've already bought spare mags and range ammo; however, I still haven't decided on any type of range bag, hearing and eye protection. Any advice or thoughts of items a new person should bring to the range?



2) The 73C has never been fired; however, due to someone probably touching the slide and never wiping it down, it had a small dime sized rust spot develop on the slide. My father used some fine grit sandpaper and sanded the rust spot down, which removed any bluing well before he passed it on to me. There are a few indications of very small potmarks still remaining. Is it wise to have someone look at it before taking it to the range?



3) I've disassembled the entire gun, gave it a thorough review and cleaning and reassembled and noted only that one rust problem area. Anything else I should be concerned about?



I welcome all advice and input. Thanks so much for your time!















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Old 06-03-2009, 06:08 PM   #2
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tripp11,



Sorry to hear about your father. That pistol will be a fond remembrance of him in years to come.

It sounds like you've cleaned and inspected the pistol. Unless something was glaringly wrong you should be good to go...

For now I'd shoot standard pressure ammo in the pistol until you could upgrade to a 18.5 lb recoil spring and a recoil buffer(if you want to).

Let us know how your shooting goes and enjoy the pistol.



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Old 06-03-2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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Howdy Mr. Tripp11,



Welcome to the site too sir. As Mr. Wes indicated, since you have already done an inspection and nothing yelled at you, you should be safe to go on shooting it. I am one of those folks who believes if it is not broken, there is no need to try to fix it - as such attempts may often create a problem.



You may well need to replace the recoil spring with a fresh one, but shooting it will be the only well to tell if that is needed. Depending on the age of your magazines, at some point you may need to replace them as well - but again, if they work fine, they are not broken.



On range bags, I have become very fond of those sold by Midway in the past couple of years. Prior to that I simply used any bag I found that looked like it would hold my range gear. The range bags Midway sells are actually designed for that purpose, and I feel someone put some good thought into their design. They sell two sizes, normal and small. I normally wait until they have them on sale, which they seem to do at least twice a year, and buy more for presents and to have spares.



You will want to pick up some type of eye and hearing protection too, that you can store in your range bag - so when you get to the range they are always with you. On vision protection, any name brand shooting glasses should work - just choose the style and lens color that suits you best. If you wear glasses, as I do, I have my doctor make my lenses as shatter proof, since I have been a police firearms instructor all of my career. It is not just that your ejected brass may hit you, but so can brass from other weapons too.



On hearing protection I will offer a suggestion to avoid my issues down the road. Whenever I shoot now, I always use both ear plugs and a good set of muffs. For the ear plugs I suggest something along the line of Sonic Ear Valves, that will allow you to hear normal conversations while in, but will close down when gunfire happens. Use both the plugs and muffs, and the odds favor you will not suffer a serious hearing loss like I have.



The more you shoot the more you will decide there are extra items you want to put in your range bag. I keep some small targets, staple gun and staples, some basic tools and a rod (for stuck bullets), some basic cleaning gear and my grease lubricant at a minimum. But if you checked all the pockets in my range bag, you would be surprised at some things you might see too.



Welcome to the site again sir, and don't be bashful asking any questions you have. I think you will find our membership here to be very user friendly. We enjoy helping fellow shooters whenever we can. Also as Mr. Wes indicated, since your father's health now prevents him from being able to shoot your HP, I think it will begin to mean more and more to you over time, as you become closer friends with it.



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Old 06-04-2009, 02:28 AM   #4
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Hello Mr. Tripp11,



Welcome in the shooting hobby!



Mr. Twoguns has covered the topic well, so I'd like to add only one thing.....while you are at the range, the most important thing you have to "have with you" is your full attention...Never let your guard down and always follow the safety rules. You might already be familiar with the 4 basic rules, but just in case:



1. "Every gun is always" loaded and has to be treated that way.



2. Never point the muzzle at something you don't want to destroy.



3. Never put your finger inside of the trigger guard unless you are prepared to shoot.



4. Always know your target and what is beyond it.



This might be nothing new for you....if that's the case, feel free to simply ignore my post...



Stay safe and welcome once again.... :)
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:53 AM   #5
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Thanks for the warm welcome! This site appealed to me most mainly because there's an absence of politics and an absence of "covert ops wannabes" spouting off, and a surplus of solid information and well substantiated opinons.



weshowe - After shooting it, I should know if the recoil spring needs replacement...or so I'm thinking, but I'm not familiar with the recoil buffer. I guess I could google it and see what I come up with! Thanks for the tips!



D-back - My wife would tell you I suffer from OCD and am overly attentive to just about everything. Good safety advice, thanks!



When I finally make it to the range, I'll report back and let you know how it went!



Thanks again!





twoguns - Good advice and good tips. I never even considered wearing plugs and muffs, but this might be well advised especially so at an indoor range where the sound is contained inside.







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Old 06-04-2009, 12:58 PM   #6
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Hello,



If my memory serves , you can find info about the recoil buffer on hipowersandhandguns.com.



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Old 06-04-2009, 03:50 PM   #7
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In additon to the advice above - with a reiteration of the importance of the 4 Universal Safety rules (these suffice - though no doubt you may have to abide whatever range safety rules of the place you go) be sure you have eye protection if you do not normally wear glasses. Clear or smoke colored ones are available at Walmart - or probably the range you frequent.



Caldwell is now making some electronic hearing protection in the $24 range. They only reduce the noise 23 db so a set of plugs might be a good thing in addition. Since these amplify normal sound it should be a good combination. Otherwise, non electronic muffs are aviailable at Wal-mart for $10 or less.



I usually look for sales on bags rather than a professional shooters bag. Lots of soft fishing tackle bags seem to work. I think I gave $10 for the one I use now (it has two side pockets that hold gun (was supposed to hold those plastic boxes) or mags and a divideable center section for accessories. Sorry to say I am not sure it has a brand and model.



Look for Oxpho Blue gel at www.brownels.com - this will likely match up the blue on your Browning.



One other piece of equipment you need is a holster - a good one that covers the trigger guard. More as a piece of safety equipment to start than a piece of carry equipment - that is for later. But laying a handgun down is not a good idea.... lean to holster it safely so you can top off mags, change targets etc.



Mind Rule 3 Above as you do! Kydex holsters tend to be hard on blue!



Good luck!!!!!



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Howdy Mr. Tripp11,



I just noticed that Midway has the larger of their shooting bags on sale now. I wanted to let you and anyone else who might be interested know.



Here is the link for that page: http://www.midwayusa.com:80/viewProduct/?productNumber=259680&eblastid=60820092&custnum=10 0323260&utm_source=midwayusarangebag_arrow&utm_me dium=eblast60820092



If the link does not work properly once on their site, just do a search for that product number: 259680



MidwayUSA Competition Range Bag PVC Coated Polyester Black

Product #: 259680



As I noted, while I normally have used equipment bags I found for my range bags over the decades, I ended up buying one of these a couple of years ago, when it was on sale. I was so impressed with it, I have purchased additional bags to give as gifts.



With well over 200 customers who purchased it posting comments, it received a 5 star rating (max rating).



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Old 06-08-2009, 03:16 PM   #9
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tripp11,



The recoil buffer I refered to is made by Buffer Technologies and is available from them.



Brownell's, Inc. also carries them and lots of other Hi-Power related items. The item you are looking for is Brownell's part number: 071-000-002

Cost is $9.95 each.



Wolff 18.5 recoil springs are part number: 969-407-180

Cost is: $7.89 each.



Hope this helps.



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