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Old 07-02-2007, 02:40 PM   #1
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Hello all,

I'm interested in the both platform and would like to know if there are any cheap and reliable entry level Hi power and 1911 pistols I can buy and practice on before shelling out big bucks to buy the high end ones. Unfortunately my local gun range charge $50 to rent and they don't carry any Hi power. What do you think of Charles Daly?



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Old 07-02-2007, 05:01 PM   #2
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Cocco - I can recommend both the Charles Daley HP-35 and the STI Spartan 1911 to you. Look them up!
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Old 07-02-2007, 05:56 PM   #3
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Dont waste your money, good deals on actual hipowers can be found you just have to look, they are still out there in the 4-500 range.
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Old 07-02-2007, 07:47 PM   #4
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Hello. I have neither handled nor shot the STI Spartan so I cannot comment on that one. While I do not own a CD Hi Power, I have shot several. The early ones I shot did not have as nice a finish as the latest, but they worked. At the time, the FN-marked Hi Powers could be had for about the same price in 9mm and had I been in the market, I'd have bought one of them. The last CD Hi Power I shot actually had a very nice trigger out of the box! It was nicer when the magazine disconnect was removed. Finish was considerably better than on the earliar CD's I'd handled and shot. The pistol functioned flawlessly with respect to feeding, extracting and ejecting. I do not care for the express sights at all but did manage a couple or three groups at 25 yards standing that were about 3" or a tad less! POA pretty well matched POI but I really had to work at it with the sights. The ring hammer mimicks the FN factory ring hammer so the things bite me a bit and were I to get one, I'd have to either radically alter the hammer ring or replace.



Were it my decision and I found a NIB CD or a used-but-clean FN or Browning at roughly the same price or not more than $150 more for the latter, I'd pass on the CD. If money was tight and all I could find was a $700 Browning or a CD in the $350 to $400 range, I'd go for the CD. The sights are the big issue with me. The rear sight dovetail is a Novak cut I believe, but so far as I've been able to find out, the front sight is not standard to most aftermarket front sights so a problem is obvious.



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Old 07-03-2007, 08:41 AM   #5
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Thanks for the response. The good news is that I've also decided that I would rather have the Hi Power in a .40. 9mm just don't cut it for me and the price for ammo is just about the same. As far as I know, only Browning offers Hi Power in .40. I will however consider CD/STI/Rock Island/Hi Standard/Springfield and others for a basic 1911 in a .45 of course.
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:30 AM   #6
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I just ordered a Hi Power in .40 from CDNN Investments, Abilene, TX. New with two mags. $440 plus shipping and fee from your FFL. It is the SFS version. I like the SFS and have one in 9mm, yet not all users do like it.



You can download their PDF flyer from their websight. Real easy to deal with so far.



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Old 06-20-2009, 08:05 PM   #7
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New to the forum but experienced with 1911's and newish to Hi Powers. I have been eyeing the FEG clones of the Hi Power, (they are the ones the Charles Daly's are built on) and as for 1911's there are several good manufacturers out there. Rock Island (Armscor brand made in the Philippines) nice introductory and well made, Taurus have the PT1911, I own 2 and they are very good shooters, Para USA have the new Para GI Expert 1911 and I have owned one, a little picky on mags but after breaking in nice and accurate indeed .
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:43 PM   #8
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feg, 440.00 includes new firing pin , spring set[wolff], polished feed ramp and chamber, sanded and waxed grips. About 5 hours time, 140 in parts. 80.00 of parts cost for 4 magazines[new], 2 17 round argentine, 2 13 round megcar a blue and a chrome. FFL fee and shipping also included in cost. Could not be more pleased with this pistol. 2010 dollars are lots smaller the even a couple of years ago, glad to have a reliable defensive weapon for this cost. Wife has Model 10 HB 4" Smitty. That one got new mainspring, cylinder shim,cold blue and complete teardown,cleaning and re assembly. About 400.00 into the Smith, shoots great, looks good, should hold value down the road. Hi Power pistols used around Portland are @ 900.00 for anything in decent shape. I used the price difference to purchase ammo and cleaning supplies. Used S&W model 10 was 600.00 @ portland gunshop, excellent shape of course. Anyone who can take the time and do the work correctly can still find diamonds in the rough for an affordable price. That is the route I took anyway.
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Coconut,



Whiel I have not owned a Charles Daly, there is a thread in here concerning them in I believe the Hi Power section. I have shot them, don't lke the sights but the one I shot was box stock and shot great. Like so many others, I have owned a Rock Island and after a bit of polishing the feed ramp on my own shot and fed anything I put in the magazine. FWIW, Rock Island is the supplier for the frame for the STI Spartan. What you get will ultimately be your decision, but if the gun is for outdoor use/truck gun type, either choice shoud suit you wonderfully. I also own a Taurus PT 1911 and have found it to be everything I need in a 1911 and nothing I don't!!! Pricing here in Oklahoma seems to be a bit less than other places, with the Rock Island running 400-450 and HP clones almost non-existent. Browning HP's run around 700-750 used and 900+ for a new one.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:32 AM   #10
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I recently bought an Argentine FM90 clone of a BHP from J&G sales for $330 (hand select). It looked NIB and shoots great. I took off the magazine safety, added a Browning ambi safety, and I have a PSI ajustable sight on order from Brownells. I also have tuned a Springfield 1911 and it shoots much better than I can. Next project is to accurize the FM. I also have a used 1992 Czech police CZ-75 on order, $359. George M.

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