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Old 09-30-2007, 08:29 PM   #11
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Damn Josh! Thats good shootin' with open sights. Plus with an older rifle and at 50yds. Put that plate on your face and see what you would of hit. Not toooo shabby. Keep it up, you're doin' fine. I gotta learn how to post photos.



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Old 10-03-2007, 04:48 PM   #12
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Hi All,



Shot again today after some bad weather passed.



I found a lot of my problem is focusing on the front sight. I... couldn't... do it! At what age do eyes start going downhill?



Anyway, I painted the post with white automotive touch up paint. The difference was night and day: I can see the sight very clearly.



Before, I had to concentrate to get good groups. I did these without much effort at all.





The flyers were my fault here. I'm having trouble mastering the trigger, which is too heavy. I may try a "toothpaste trigger job" on it tonight.





Again, a flyer. I shot this while sighting in better. The four rounds could have been together if I hadn't done that.



There was an older gent at the gunstore dropping off his M44 to be 'scoped. He had a genuine Mosin-Nagant 'scope mount and WWII sniper 'scope. It was a "sight to behold." If I wanted to permanently alter this into a 'scoped rifle I'd invest in one - especially since it had my beloved, but rarely seen, preference of a post reticle.



As it stands, I'm still planning the scout setup. I'd like to see what this will do with match ammo (or 7n1 Soviet sniper ammuntion) and a 2.5 or 4 power handgun 'scope. I'm betting with a few inexpensive tweaks I could get this bad boy to shoot very, very well.



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Old 10-04-2007, 06:48 AM   #13
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I use to tease people a little about needing glasses but right when I turned 41 I started using reading glasses. I don't tease anymore. As for the scope, do you think you'll need it? LOL
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Nice shooting. That 185gr. Brown Bear is your round, I'd say! The WWII era Soviet scopes were 3x, so a pistol scope in 2x, 2.5x, or even 4x might prove handy as a scope set up. I've handled a M91/59 with a very cheap (not inexpensive mind you, *cheap*!) scope on a B-square mount but the eye relief was not good. S&K's scope mount looks very nice, but I suspect it is about the price you paid for the whole M44 in the first place, or close to it.



It sounds like wintry weather up where you are, so perhaps white on the post stands out good. But what about summer glare? D'you think orange or red might work for you? You might consider the mojo aperture sights too as another sight option.



Here's another M44 trick: When you finally try out the rifle at the 100 yard range, use a pistol CHL target like we use down here in Texas (it is an outline of a man-shaped target without a target superimposed on it, i.e. a giant-sized bowling pin shape with arms). Before you start in on it, put the top of the protective front sight hood at the top of the figure, and see where the top of your post is...(It should be close to where the "Gott mit uns" belt buckle would have been on your WWII sight picture) You'll find that the Red Army intended it as a crude range guesstimator of sorts.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:28 AM   #15
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Thanks guys.



White seems to work best for me. It's not winter out yet, and it's actually still in the '80s most afternoons right now. At night it drops to a very pleasant sleeping temperature.



I don't plan on doing much shooting this winter if it's like last winter, but I guess I'll see how the white stands out. Never thought of that.



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Old 10-05-2007, 06:17 AM   #16
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You have the kinks worked out now move the target back to 100 yards. Longer distance will magnify errors and let you see them better.



It's a progression see whats happening then correct. if you can't see you won't correct.



That rifle ought to shoot well out to 200 yards. longer perhaps but the stock configuration and sight radius is going to limit it at mid to long range. Mid is 200- 600 Long is 600 to 1000



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Old 11-06-2007, 02:37 PM   #17
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Hy folks,



I know I am too unexperienced to give a fully valid opinion, but I have found that ammo is very important to have good groups.



I am starting to train in order to compete 300 meter rifle shooting with open sights with my old Mauser 98K. And started shooting 50, 100 and 150 meters. (300 meters is still under construction in the range)



For this gun I can only get very old original ammo year 1935 FN Belgium. (because of the old ammo, cleaning after shooting is very important)



Before shooting, I have selected the bullets according to weight (I learned this trick in this forum), and noticed the groups were much much better.



Other shooters disassemble the ammo and reload weighing powder and bullets. This is even better.



Temperature of the rifle is also important. I have learned to leave the rifle under the sunshine, so that the barrel is not cold, and the temperature changes after firing the first rounds are not so sudden. Or you might do some shooting before competition to have a "warm" barrel.



Important is also look at your target with a scope after each shoot and make aiming corrections.



My grouping is not the best, but I have improved a lot, and I guess I will participate in 300 meters bench open sights next year. (Do not expect a medal, but expect acceptable results)



I am posting this reply because I also expect some comments from you all.



Greetings from the highest located firing range in the world about 10.800 feet altitude!!!!!!

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