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Old 06-03-2006, 10:52 PM   #1
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Hey Guys...

I am looking into the purchase of another handgun and am considering either the Kimber Pro Carry II or Ultra Carry. The Kimber website states that on the full size Kimbers, you should replace the spring every 1500 to 2000 rounds. On the Ultra's and Compacts every 500 to 1000 (if memory serves). This sounds excessive.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts regarding this? I shoot a minimum of once a month usually 100 to 150 rounds per session. This rate, I am going to have to purchase a number of springs (which are probably fairly expensive due to the fact that they are "Kimber") which drives up the cost of operation by requiring a "spring change" every three months or so.

I'll discuss this with the dealer the next time I am in the store, but in the meantime, does anyone have an info or advice for a newbie consideing a Kimber?

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Old 06-04-2006, 06:36 AM   #2
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This is probally not what you want to hear, but, I personally would NOT go with any less than a 4 1/4" barrel with the traditional guide rod & bushing.



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Old 06-04-2006, 09:34 AM   #3
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The recommendation for the Colt Officer's Model and Springfield Ultra Compact is that the spring be replaced every 500 rounds (if memory serves, though mostly it's pretty lazy). These are not plinking guns, and they're not designed for heavy, everyday firing. They fall into the "carry much, shoot little" category.



I'm not a huge fan of too much customization and careful fitting for carry guns, and both of the ones you mention fall into that category. I think I could find something less expensive that worked just as well and didn't require parts replacement quite so often.
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Thanks for all the excellent constructive feedback guys. I have a Beretta Cheeta 380 auto now that I will use for concealed carry in Wisconsin when that happens, but am considering moving up to a larger caliber and wanted to weigh carefully all the various pros and cons before maiking that kind of investment. Agan... thanks.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:37 AM   #5
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Foggymoon, I guess I must be the exception. I alternate carrry between a Kimber Compact (4 inch barrel) and an Ultra Carry (three inch barrel). I've used the Compact for a training class and for an IPSC match (the day I forgot to put my 5 inch Classic in the range bag), and the Ultra for a couple of IDPA matches.



While not as competitive as the full size gun, both are easy to shoot quickly and accurately, and their use in a class or a couple matches will soon prove or disprove their reliability (both of mine were reliable -- no malfunctions of any kind). Neither seems to have been harmed by such use.



Wolff makes replacement recoil springs ($7.89 from Brownells) for the 4-inch Compact. Couldn't find an accessory spring manufacturer's listing for Ultra Carry springs, but I know you can get them direct from Kimber. Hope this helps.
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This is probally not what you want to hear, but, I personally would NOT go with any less than a 4 1/4" barrel with the traditional guide rod & bushing.



Take Care,


Ditto. Not to say that lots of folks have not been fine with the short guns but I just see too many malfunctions (same is true of any other brand/design of compact - specifically the glock "sub compacts").



I take the Full Length Guide Rod out of any 5" 1911s and replace it with the standard G.I. (aka John Browning) system. The only barrel bushings I have seen broken were either on guns with a FLGR or on an Officers Model which has a weird system also.



I have purchased my last less than 4.25" 1911 type gun. And I am not too crazy about any other design less than 4".



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Jim H (and others) my take on this is about the same, though I express it a little differently: 'If you have a 1911 shorter than a Commander and it works all the time...don't ever ever ever be silly enough to get rid of it, the next one may very well be a different critter indeed.'



Ahem, is this where I add that my Colt Defender runs perfectly? A trusted local 'smith told me to change the outer, larger diameter recoil spring every 500 rounds or so, and not to worry about the inner one unless I do a LOT of shooting with that gun.
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Foggy---

I carry an Eclipse Pro (the Commander configuration) and Kimber recommends switching out the recoil spring every 800 to a thousand rounds; you can push the envelope, but I wouldn't suggest going past 1500, or the gun won't cycle reliably. This is the only spring you have to replace, however, although I'd suggest replacing your magazine springs regularly too. As to whether you have to use factory springs, I don't, since you can buy them cheaper from Brownell's---just make sure you're getting the proper strength spring for whatever barrel length you decide on.

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Old 05-01-2007, 11:20 AM   #9
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From the Kimber Manual: Compact & Pro Models, Recoil spring every 800 rds Ultra/Compact Models, Recoil Spring every 1800 rds. My Kimber Ultra 3" has had 1500 rds of all makes of ball and JHP ammo run through it without a failure. Other make carry guns are cheaper and maybe don't require spring replacement as much. However, the Kimber Ultra or the Springfield 3" are proven reliable over the long haul and are meant to be carried more than shot. Where I train, the Glock seems to have the highest incidence of FTE and other malfunctions of any of the other semi's. Buy the absolute best you can afford. Your life may depend on it. Don't overlook high quality magazines either. (Mecgar)
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gunsprings.com Wolff gunsprings websight will tell you everything you could ever want to know about gunsprings, as well as sell them to you. 3 packs are only about $18. The "4 procarry is the way to go even the shorter guns that run well suffer from limp wristing problems. And if you think logically about it the shorter gun really isnt any easier to conceal. It is usually the grip size . At one time Springfield made a model with the short officer grip and the 4" slide. I personally feel a commander is the perfect all around carry, plinking, informal target, local fun match gun.
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