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Old 11-09-2006, 09:09 PM   #21
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Concealing A Hi-Power

Being from Texas, and being a person that carries a Hi-Power daily, I can add a few things:

1. It's hot in Texas during the summer. To me, it's just a given fact that between April and October, I'll be sweating. With that said, I have never given a second thought to carry a Hi-Power or a 5" 1911 in the Texas heat. Perhaps I've acclimated to the heat better than some, having lived here my entire life, but it just doesn't affect me and certainly doesn't have an effect on my choice of concealed carry weapon. I'm sure that your mileage may vary.

2. I carry my Hi-Power over my appendix--the 1:00-1:30 position. Being a slender person without much depth front to rear, I find that appendix carry conceals the weapon much better than other positions. I was always concerned when carrying behind my hip (4:30 or so) that the grip of the weapon would "print" through my over-garments. I found myself constantly holding my strong side arm in an unnatural location to keep my weapon from printing. With my holstered weapon up front, it appears that I have a slight "belly" but nothing screams "GUN!". Something for you to consider.

3. I always wear an undershirt. In the heat of the summer, it's a so-called "wifebeater" tank top. In the winter, a short-sleeve white t-shirt. Over the top of these undergarments, I usually wear a loose-fitting button front shirt. In the summer, I favor light-weight Hawaiian shirts, simply because I worked once for a few months in the Florida Keys and I have an ample supply that I acquired while I was there. The multi-colored and irregular prints on these garments seems to hide a weapon better than solid color or striped garments. Think of this as urban camo, concealing or distracting the observant eye.

4. Someone mentioned previously, but if you're wearing a shirt with a lapel pocket, put something slightly bulk in it. With me, I usually carry a pack of cigarettes in it, along with my eyeglasses if I'm not wearing them (Note: I only wear glasses to drive so I don't wear them 90% of the time). This serves as an alternative focal point for a person's eyes and offsets any particular bulges or protuberances that might be caused by a concealed handgun.

5. Don't give too much credit to those folks that don't carry a pistol daily. The vast majority of them don't pay attention to their surroundings and wouldn't know you had a pistol until you pulled it out to use it (if you ever had to). Just don't discount the fact that there are a few observant folks, criminals included, out there. So, concealed means concealed just to be on the safe side. On the off-chance that someone notices that you have a suspicious "bulge" under your shirt, have a cover story prepared--I favor "That's my colostomy bag. You'd be amazed by the advances they've made in the past few years with these medical devices. You want to see?" Or you could go "That's my cell phone" or "Insulin pump" or whatever. Have a practiced answer that is plausible and that the lay-person might accept. It shouldn't be an issue if you're concealing your pistol well, but one never knows what situation might arise, so be prepared.

6. Texas LEOs are generally on-board with the TX CHL program and recognize that you are not a scum-bag simply by virtue of acquiring the TX CHL. Just don't test their patience during traffic stops and remember that you have a duty to inform the officer when he asks for identification, whether you are carrying or not. (I cannot recall whether you are required to inform if you are not carrying, but I think prudence dictates that one should, or at least I should, just to be safe and on the right side of the law.)

I think that's about it. I think you've chosen a great pistol to carry concealed (I really like mine) and welcome to Texas!

Jeremy Conn

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Old 11-09-2006, 10:24 PM   #22
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A little update if I may:

I ended up NOT moving to Texas, due to my getting married and deciding Wisconsin was the place to stay for now. (although my wife is from Texas and moved to Wisconsin for me. lol)

And since Wisconsin is a no-carry state and will probably stay that way for awhile, I won't be carrying anytime soon.

But, on the off chance that we get a carry law here, any advice on carrying a hunk of cold metal like the BHP when it's -10 degrees outside?

Matt C

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Old 01-17-2007, 12:05 PM   #23
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I carried in North Dakota for five years, and a hunk of cold metal is very disconcerting when you strap it on in the morning. I wore a wife beater all the time, usually a sweater and a leather jacket over that. Being close to your body, the gun will stay warm unless you go outside with it exposed, in which case it won't matter. Just put the wife beater or t-shit between the gun and you and you should be fine.
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:24 PM   #24
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Coming in very late in this string. I am fairly lean - 6' 00'' and 175. Virginia law allows open carry in vehicles and I was getting by with that alone (peace of mind over any "objective" standard) until picking up a friend at a local train station. Scary place and really wanted the option of having a legal concealed firearm then and afterwards. Carrying openly (and legally) into that situation would have been laughably provocative. Imagine about a dozen inner city "youths" strolling towards you "inquisitively" with that peculiar Hollywood (art imitating urban life or vice versa) sideways to the head ".40 Glock" presentation.

I have a Milt Sparks OWB "range" holster for my Hi Power(s) that worked fine that winter after getting my CCW permit. Later, I went with Mr Camp's endorsement and ordered an HBE IWB. Eric came through. All summer (only when off base and usually on weekends - you can really get me going on that subject - can't even bring one on base in the car and my commute route options are, shall we say, through "exotic" locales.) I packed a chrome Hi Power under a dark tee shirt at around the 4 0'Clock postion. The chrome beat the sweat-induced rust fight, although I did clean it often. Never bothered with a back up mag. Naively perhaps, I figured for my needs/limited skills, a single mag better suffice. As much as possible, I tried to rely on my "wetware" to stay clear of problems. If that failed, I had 13 backups.

I will tell you after a year or so of this, as reasonably convenient as it was, I adopted a S&W 442 snubbie for most of my excursions. Fits perfectly in my front right pocket and with no reloads (my choice), I try to apply "wetware" even more. I can always "upgrade" firepower if needed (e.g. the train station), to a Hi Power. Honestly, I think that situation needed a SAW!

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Old 08-10-2009, 02:00 PM   #25
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I carry my HP in a Milt Sparks Versa Max II, all year round. It won't print under a T shirt, if you get a hi quality pistol belt.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:31 PM   #26
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My Blade-Tech kydex holster, instructor belt, and kydex mag pouches have been used for decades. Using a light vest, or jacket they go totally unnoticed. Call it "Oregon Casual". It fit's 90% + of our daily routines and is rugged enough for field use if need be...

The other rig I have is a Horseshoe Leather Products (Andy Arratoonian) Model 28 holster, Model 83 mag pouch, and contoured belt. It's a bit dressier, if I need to be in slacks, a good shirt, and a light jacket.

For my Colt Commander and Goverment Models I have a custom rig done by Eric @ HBE. It's as fine a holster set as I've owned and bears the weight of the pistol very comfortably.

I'm 5'4 and by dressing around the pistol I've successfully carried Hi-Powers, Government Models, and Commanders for decades.

To me, fine leather is the mark of the professional. Keeping the pistol concealed, comfortable, and available until it is needed.

Kydex does the same, but in a casual environment or field use.

My .02 worth.


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Old 03-28-2010, 02:23 AM   #27
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I've carried HP's and 1911s since the 70's til now. 70-86 was in SEA or AL with the USAF. Pachmeyer rubber grips and a snug belt-16 yrs no one knew until 1 day in Thailand, '74, when a outlaw Bhatbus driver tried to rob me @ knife point. (IMHO-knife-0/45-1)After AF, 22 yrs LEO, some UC, same setup, mexican-carry. Pachmeyers, a piece of bike innertube cut to fit, a cluster of thick rubber bands, all of these work to do what you asked-CONCEAL- a Hi+power. God luck. As for holsters, a good "pancake" style, snugged tight to the body does well.
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Old 03-26-2013, 02:07 PM   #28
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I am female and 106 lbs. I pack my BHP....but not in my bra. I buy my jeans a size too big and use a IWB holster. My jeans may be baggie....But I sacrifice fashion for function. You can too.
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:09 PM   #29
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Sounds like you've solved the riddle! My wife is your size, but uses a fanny pack the few times she does carry.


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Old 03-28-2013, 04:23 AM   #30
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But I sacrifice fashion for function. You can too.

I disagree. I manage to be fashionable and stylish wherever I go without sacrificing fashion or function.

As a matter of fact, it's widely known that I...

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