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Old 11-10-2005, 08:45 AM   #1
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What should I make of stovepipes and failures to extract?



Shooting my spouse's 9mm Firestar with 124gr. FMJ ammo there were several stovepipe jams and failures to extract. I don't think I was limp-wristing on the stovepipes, and I could use any recommendation folks might have on the failure to extract? The actual extractor seems to still be intact, and it works with inert snap-caps.



Much obliged for any diagnosis.



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Old 11-10-2005, 09:00 AM   #2
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Hello. It is hard to diagnose from a distance, but even when extractors seem to have enough tension to extract by hand, they may not during actual firing. Over the years I've seen a few STAR handguns that had problems such as you've described being "fixed" by removing the extractor and cleaning the carmelized gunk out from under it. Sometimes a new spring is required.



It is also possible that the ammunition being used doesn't have quite enough "pop" to kick the slide completely rearward. In such instances the fired case doesn't hit the ejector or doesn't hit it hard enough to actually kick out the hull.



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Old 11-10-2005, 04:19 PM   #3
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Hi Dave,



+1 on what Mr. Camp said.



As well, what does the chamber look like? Is it rough? My Taurus was doing this for the longest time until I sat it down and had a talk with it. I threatened it with power tools :)



If you find the chamber is rough (very rough - machining marks etc.) I'll outline my procedure. However, you'll need to be careful as you can get a chamber too smooth as well.



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Old 11-11-2005, 08:29 AM   #4
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Thanks guys. That gives me some ideas to work with. I'll have a closer look at the extractor and chamber. I'll also try some different types of ammunition. I sure hope it doesn't need a new spring...I'd have no clue where one would get old Star parts.



Again, obliged.

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(Chomping cigar, stirring coffee.)



June '06 update: A change of diet to Fiocchi fodder has produced much greater reliability...about 90 percent with a failure to feed probably caused by limp-wrist. I'll keep an eye out on the recommendations up post.
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Fiocchi ammo, from what I remember, is loaded hot. Limpwristing may be the problem (I'll admit I has no hands on experience w/ the 9mm Firestar). If its shooting fine w/ those, it may be that your particular pistol may need "hi octane" ammo. Just a thought.
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Old 08-17-2006, 12:03 PM   #6
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It states in my owner's manual that my Taurus 92 is not guaranteed reliable with anything less than [email protected] but +P voids the warranty (huh???)



It's always functioned perfectly with the hot stuff ([email protected]). WWB gave me all sorts of trouble. It turned out being the chamber.



Dave's new experience with the Fiocchi reenforces the probability of the bad chamber... though it certainly doesn't rule out the extractor. Could also be that the round's not pulling into the ejector correctly.



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