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Old 02-10-2009, 11:33 PM   #1
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Trade USP9 for HP in 40?

Got a chance to trade a USP9 with a trigger job from Bill Springfield for a High Power in 40. Should I?
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:25 AM   #2
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YES, I'd trade a USP in a heart-beat for a High Power, especially considering that The High Power & M1911 are the only service size pistols I care to own.

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I'd rather beat a bad guy to death with my Browning High Power, than shoot him dead with a "plastic pistol".

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Old 02-11-2009, 07:24 AM   #3
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3Fs - I rarely see HKs for sale or trade and therefore I don't know what the going rate for them are. But, while I respect them, I would not want one. The magazines are dreadfully expensive. The bore axis to very high. And, I can't imagine a 9mm that large (M9s as well).

The BHP-35s I see in the stores are about $900 plain jane. I did not see any 40s but I would imagine they are out there.

I do own a few plastic pistols (Glock 34 and Walther PPS) but that does not mean I have to like them! I think a BHP-35 in 40 to be a superior pistol to a USP. Just my opinion.

Lots would depend on condition and model. If it was an older one without good hi vis sights and a old style safety, I would hesitate about 2 minutes and then trade.
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:03 AM   #4
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Dump the USP9 and get the Hi-Power .40. My Practical model shoots better than I can(that's easy) and you have the advantage of adding other barrels in .357 SIG or 9mm to the platform.

If you like the 9mm why not stick with a standard MK III in 9mm? You'll save about 3 oz. compared with those chambered in .40 S & W.

I'm not a big fan of HK...


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Old 02-11-2009, 08:46 PM   #5
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I own a BHP in .40 and HKs. I find the USP to be a superb weapon just as the BHP.

Both have pros and cons:

9mm is cheaper than .40

The USP is much lighter than the BHP

The USP has a higher magazine capacity than the BHP (in Free States, that is)

The .40 BHP mags should not fall under a new ban, the USP will. That will result in higher replacement cost down the road for the USP.

The factory mags cost about the same.

Both MSRPs are about the same.

You can still buy a new USP, the BHP in .40 is a different story.

The BHP has more options for customization that the USP.

And on, and on, and on.......

I always find the easiest way to decide is to imagine both pistols for sale at $1 each, but you only have one dollar to spend. If that doesn't work, flip a coin.

Imagine the replies you'd get on the forums with the same question......
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:45 PM   #6
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Hi. Coogan, I just might put it on HKPro,

I do wan a high cap 9mm that I will put in a military shoulder holster if there is a case of social breakdown. The HKUSP9 serves the role well. But, I love Brownings.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:18 PM   #7
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My opinion only! I feel that the HK is a fine pistol but overpriced, the HP is sometimes priced a bit higher than plastic frame run of the mill pistols, but there is a good reason for this, its WORTH it! Reliable, accurate, ergonomically close to perfect, what else does a pistol need to be? Added that the Hipower is a single action, this allows me to place hits faster where I aim than with any D/A-DAO trigger. If it ain't a HiPower, make it a 1911.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:41 PM   #8
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Okay. I am biased here. Actually doubly biased. First, the BHP works for me. It really fits my hand, I like its balance and ergonomics. Second, I'm not a USP fan. I've used them and I don't like the way the frames flex - particularly the .40s. I'm also not thrilled with the mag release or their bulk. About the only thing I like is you can order a specific action type from a short laundry list.

SOOOO, for me, it's a no-brainer.
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:48 PM   #9
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Howdy sir,

Well I will throw my .02 into the mix for you as well. Short version is I think I would opt for the HP in .40 to be candid sir.

I think H&K makes excellent rifles, subs and pistols. I carried a 33E for a year until ordered to send it back to National Firearms for a major trade in on new long guns. I used an MP-5 for over a decade and it never let me down once.

I have never owned an H&K pistol, beyond an early P9S back in the 70s. I have had the chance to shoot most of the various USP models and calibers through work. I did not have problems with them function wise, but they simply never felt good in my hands. Just a subjective statement.

My only real concern on H&K weapons is the reputation they have on very slow customer service if repair is ever needed. Most of the negative feedback I have comes from several other PFIs (primary firearms instructors) within my agency, all of whom are/were major H&K fans. The largest fan became so discouraged on a requested re-configuration of his duty pistol at the factory, he ended up getting a Sig P220. If you know a good gunsmith who can repair it, short of the factory, then service is less of an issue.

I know from previous posts you have made that you are a HP fan. Using the .40 platform, you still have the option of using conversion barrels to fire either 357 Sig or 9mm out of the HP, because of its caliber. That is a major advantage to me of a pistol in either .40 or 357 Sig - the other caliber options is offers. However, a 9mm by comparison, will always be a 9mm.

Obviously you like your USP, or you would not be struggling to make this decision as it appears you are doing. So bottom line is only you can decide which platform has the most positives for you sir. Good luck, and let us know what you decide to do.


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Old 02-12-2009, 09:17 PM   #10
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I've got until tomorrow to make the decision. I could just buy a H P in 40, but I have some other things in mind. Like one of the Sig 250's Mike Benton let me play with.
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