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Old 08-31-2007, 02:31 PM   #1
 
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Barsto, Firedragon, Browning???

In replacement barrels I see a wide swing in price and how they are made. Who makes the best? Why?
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:56 PM   #2
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I have Bar-Sto barrels in my 1911s, my Glocks and my BHP-35. I know they are not cheap but since I found old Irv in the desert in 1976, I have been convinced that they are if not the best one of the best barrel makers in the world. I think Kart and Jarvis also have large followings as well but I have always used Bar-Sto.



Now, a Bar-Sto comes with a minimum dimension chamber generally allergic to reloads. Should you want to have them digest my sloppy reloads, you may have to have it reamed out just a hair (1 RCH - the finest measurement known to mankind). for full reliability.



I don't know Firedragon but I have heard good things about Storm Lake. And, you can hardly go wrong with Browning but I was shocked at how much I had to pay for a new slide stop.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:14 PM   #3
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Howdy sir,



I think it may well depend on what purpose you want to use the aftermarket barrel for really. If you were going to do serious target or competition shooting, then of the 3 I would think Bar-Sto would be the way to go in my view. They do have a solid reputation for making outstanding match barrels.



If you are looking for a new caliber or just general defense or plinking, then personally I think the EFK Fire Dragon barrels offer a lot of value. I have two of their barrels, one in 357 Sig to convert my FHP in 40, and a 9mm down/conversion barrel for my Sig P226R in 357 Sig. Both were a straight drop in with no fitting required, and are clearly more accurate in my view than I can ever hope to be. I shoot both factory and reloads in mine without an issue. They are also a bit cheaper than the Bar-Sto, which are the only two brands I have any experience with.



I have purchased a semi-drop in Bar-Sto in 357 Sig to fit my CZ 75B in 40, but have not been able to shoot it yet, as my gunsmith says it will require some fitting he did not have time to do when I picked up my pistols from him.



So again, in my view, I think it might well depend on the purpose you want the other barrel for.



Hope this helps a little anyway.



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Old 09-02-2007, 02:28 PM   #4
 
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Here is my thoughts,



I bought an FEG P9M (my first hi power). The first thing I did was disable the mag saftey, I replaced the recoil spring with a wolff 18.5 lb spring. I have a reduced mainspring but I have not put it in yet. I got cocobolo grips from CDNN for $27 (great grips BTW). With all this I've only spent $340. I don't shoot competition and would use this for defense but I would like a barrel that is more accurate than I am. But, being cheap, I don't want to spend more on the barrel than I did on the gun.



An alternative that has crossed my mind is that the FEG makes a great (reasonably priced) foundation for a tricked out gun. Half the fun for me is tinkering.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q...t/DSC01920.jpg

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Pics of my gun with the grips from CDNN. These look much better in person. I highly recommend them for someone who wants cocobolo.

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Those CDNN cocobolos look good and for $27 they look even better. I think I'll call CDNN Tues. and order a set for my FN.



Thanks for the heads-up and the pix.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:09 AM   #6
 
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KKM makes NICE BHP barrels. But I suggest you have it pro fitted.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:13 PM   #7
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KKM are one piece with button rifling



Barsto are two piece with broach rifling



Both are 416 stainless
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You mentioned broach and button rifling whgich I am familiar with but EFK says their "Barrels are bored and rifled using EDM process (electrostatic discharge machine). What is EDM and is this hype or is there a real advantage?
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Howdy sir,



I can not answer you question directly, as I simply do not know. But I will tell you when using the two EFK barrels I currently have (9mm down for my Sig P226R, and 357 Sig for my FN HP 40), I am very pleased with the accuracy and functioning both give me. I get nice tight groups and flawless functioning with them.



Hopefully someone who understands more about the various types of rifling than I do, can give you a more complete answer.



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Old 10-01-2007, 10:33 AM   #10
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In replacement barrels I see a wide swing in price and how they are made. Who makes the best? Why?


Although I didn't use them, I think Barsto and KKM make the best barrels. Why? Look at the top BHP gunsmiths (Novak and C&S) installing their barrels in their custom pistols plus I think these barrels have tighter tolerances than factory.



If anything, I am happy with the factory barrel. If it comes to the point that the factory barrel has to be replaced and it costs just as much (if not more) as the Barsto barrel, then I buy the Barsto barrel. However, since my factory barrel is still working, the only reason I get an aftermarket barrel is for conversion (from .40 to 9mm or .40 to .357 SIG).
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