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Old 03-21-2005, 03:30 PM   #1
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13 or 15 round Mec-Gar Mags?

I just got one of those CDNN Hi-Powers (9 mm). It comes with a factory 10 round mag and a 15 round KRD. I'm thinking of getting a Mec-Gar 13 or 15 round mag because I want at least one hi-cap factory (or, at least, factory-quality) mag for carry.



My question: Does the 15 round Mec-Gar fit flush with the bottom of the handle like the 13, or does it extend a bit? I can't seem to find a picture. If it fits flush (or near-flush), it seems like the 15 would be the way to go.
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Old 03-21-2005, 04:09 PM   #2
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Mr. Hill,



Sir, it does indeed fit flush.



When Browning designed the Hi Power it was with a 15rnd magazine. Due to weight restrictions imposed upon pistols at a military trial he dropped two rounds.



Mec-Gar makes OEM magazines for several manufacturers. Taurus is one- the new 92s come with a 17 rounder instead of 15- and IIRC Sigs come with them also. I've looked at Hi Powers that seem to have Mec-Gar as their supplier.



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Old 03-21-2005, 04:23 PM   #3
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Hello,



It is true that MecGar makes the mags for FN/Browning, but, they are made to FN/Browning Specs.



The FN/Browning Factory Mags are much better than the MecGar marked mags.



You can get Brand New Factory 13 Round Mags with the fast eject spring directly from Browning 800-333-3288



FWIW: I only use Factory Mags.



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Old 03-22-2005, 12:48 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info, guys.
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:19 PM   #5
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Hello & Your Welcome,



Josh is correct about the 15 round MecGar fitting flush.



MecGar uses a differnt follower for the 15 rounder, and, it is more prone to tipping and causing malfunctions than the follower used in the 13 round MecGar, so if your still wanting the MecGars atleast stick with the 13 rounders.



Magazines are one of the Most Important Parts of any Automatic Firearm, and the Most Over Looked by many, never skimp on your mags.



Sorry I didn't put all this in my original reply, but I got cut short and had to stop what I was doing and leave the house.



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I would not go that far as to put a bad name to the 15rd

MECGARS I am currently using six of them as my carry and range mags and love them. they are great mags that work wonderfully and for half the cost of factory mags that hold two less rounds.
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Hello Sunflash,



I'm glad to hear you've had good luck with your 15 rounders.



BTW: I'm not trying to put a bad name on the 15 round MecGar's, I was simply stateing the fact that the 15 rounders have a differnt follower than the 13 rounders have, and the 15 round follower is more prone to tipping. That doesn't mean that they will tip every time, or ever will in your mags for that matter, it's simply a possibility. And there are reports of it happening.



As far as the cost of the FN/Browning Factory Mags go, I always buy in quanity from a local gun shop and get them for around $35.00 bucks per mag. And if Browning was they only source for Factory mags, I would pay their price, because the FN/Browning Factory mags are worth it.



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I'm glad to hear you've had good luck with your 15 rounders.



BTW: I'm not trying to put a bad name on the 15 round MecGar's, I was simply stateing the fact that the 15 rounders have a differnt follower than the 13 rounders have, and the 15 round follower is more prone to tipping. That doesn't mean that they will tip every time, or ever will in your mags for that matter, it's simply a possibility. And there are reports of it happening.



As far as the cost of the FN/Browning Factory Mags go, I always buy in quanity from a local gun shop and get them for around $35.00 bucks per mag. And if Browning was they only source for Factory mags, I would pay their price, because the FN/Browning Factory mags are worth it.



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So what are the differences between the MecGar and the Browning factory 13 rd mags?
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Hello,



The 13 Round Factory mags have a better follower thats attached to the spring, the floor plate is also attached to the spring, the magazine spring is better ie. more heavy duty, they also have the fast eject spring and a more rust resistant Phosphate/Parkerized finish.



The reason for the follower & floor plate being attached is to keep the number of parts to a minimum to help prevent loss in the field and to help keep the Soldier from putting the spring in backwards or upside down when servicing his/her mags in low light conditions or in the dark.



The Factory mags are overall just more heavy duty, and they are designed to function better in more adverse conditions, remember, The High Power serves in a lot of Militaries around the world, and it's designed to serve very well, which it does.



Get your self a 13 round Factory mag and compare it to a 13 round MecGar, and you'll see what I'm talking about.



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13 or 15 round Mec-Gar Mags?

Howdy folks,



Recently, before www.fnhipower.com crashed and burned, this same topic came up from time to time. After the most recent iteration, I took apart a 13-round BHP OEM mag and a 15-round Mec-Gar and miked the mag body thicknesses, spring diameters, etc.



The springs are identical in everything except the top of the spring for the 15-rounder, which tapers to accomodate the follower and additional two rounds (the spring collapses into itself centrally, thus, buying additional height space).



The mag bodies were measured on all sides and centers, including the rear seam, and were for all practical purposes identical with the slight variants of only two or three thousandths of an inch attributed to manufacturing tolerances.



For what it's worth, for almost ten years now I have carried the 15-round mags on duty and off duty without incident. Can a follower tip? Certainly. The legged followers in the 13-round mags, which are reported to prevent this possible tipping, are breakable and the advantage is not only lost, but there is a possibility the loose piece(s) might gum up the works, so to speak. This failure is reported at fnhipower also.



In short, nothing is foolproof or failure-free. I have run across several, albeit few, instances of the legged followers breaking. I have runacross exactly one circumstance where the 15-round follower tipped.



Either magazine style is fine, unlikely to fail, and should serve your defense needs admirably. Pay your nickel and take your ride.



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