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Old 11-03-2006, 03:44 PM   #1
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Thought I would bring up an interesting topic. I work at an indoor range at the biggest mall in the world up in Edmonton Canada and I thoguht I would share some thoughts on pistol reliability.

Restricted to the 9mm caliber, the three types of gun which I have found shoot the most reliable with new shooters under range use conditions ( I.E. no cleaning for thousands of rounds, poor technique, limp wristing etc, sorry no burried in mud tests here ) are as follows.

#3) Sig 226. Found to be usually 100% reliable with new shooters, the slide catch has the tendency to wear out.

#2) Glock 17 Besides having to constantly replace front sites on these, they are usually very reliable, even more so then the sig

and #1 for reliability under excessive range conditions....................

Beretta 92FS/vertex

If a new shooter just wants to shoot 9mm and doesn't have a gun type preference, I will almost always give them a beretta, because I know they cause the least amount of problems. The only time I had a problem with a beretta is when one girl was so small not a single gun would cycle reliably with her (including all of the above)

This is just my expierience with range guns, not torture tested guns,

thought you guys might be interested to know since berettas are not usually thought as super reliable

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Old 11-03-2006, 04:20 PM   #2
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Hello, sir. I appreciate such factual information. You, as are some others, are in a position to see shooters, both new and experienced actually shoot and report what you see. It is a bit of knowledge to be added for us all.

Best and thanks.

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Old 11-03-2006, 06:24 PM   #3
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I own two of the three handguns mentioned in this post.

The Beretta 92FS and the Sig P226.

Both of my 92FS's were purchased NIB and have been 100% reliable to date. Ditto a NIB 96 .40 S&W.

The P226 has been 100 % reliable in my hands. I had a girlfriend who was limpwristing the 226 and it jammed repeatedly. Once I showed her how to properly grip the piece, she never had the problem again.

Never owned a Glock 17, but I did own a 19 for about a year. I put about 1000 rounds through it and I don't recall it ever manfunctioning. But I never got used to that awful trigger and accuracy was mediocre at best. I put it away and eventually sold it after acquiring the P226.

Based on my experiences with the three, my vote would go to the Beretta 92FS as the most reliable double action 9mm I have ever owned. For a SA 9mm, my Browning Mark III wins hands down.

I own and have owned a fairly good selection of quality 9mm pistols over the years. The only one that proved to be a disappointment reliability wise was a Colt LW Commander. It had a nasty habit of smoke stacking the extracted cases. Changing the recoil springs and mags made no difference. OTOH, my current Colt Combat Commander 9mm has been reliable ever since it came back from Barsto with one of their barrel/bushing units installed.

Other than bottleneck rounds such as the 7.65 Para aka .30 Luger and the .357 Sig, I firmly believe that the tapered case 9x19 is the single most reliable feeding and extracting auto pistol cartridge to be had at this time.

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Old 11-04-2006, 07:40 AM   #4
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I own a Glock 17 and have ran a couple thousand rounds through it. Other than a couple of malfuctions during the first box of shells and one failure to feed a live round with an after market clip I tried (weak spring) I have had no malfunctions.
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Old 11-04-2006, 11:32 PM   #5
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I'll always believe that Berettas and Sigs are the most reliable service autos on the market. I currently use Glocks partially due to department regs and I feel comfortable with them. If I had my d'ruthers, I'd still be carrying a 96F for duty.
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Old 11-05-2006, 04:02 PM   #6
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Having had a few 9mm over the years I can only say that most were quite reliable.Of the present group The CZ's and of coarse the HiPower have been great.. The S&W Sigma,sw9ve,the Kel-Tek P-11 have been problem free also..The 1911 types can be a pain but it is mostly ammo related..Short flat point ammo just seems to not make it up the ramp all the time..No problem with round nose ammo at all..

I have found that in the 1911 type guns that the longer the round,like a 38 Super,are most reliable feeders..
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Old 11-05-2006, 06:14 PM   #7
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Interestingly, the first Glock I ever fired, a G17 when they were new on the market, went south halfway through the first magazine. I was not impressed.

I've never had a problem with a SIG or an H&K.
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