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Old 03-04-2007, 06:05 AM   #1
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Which Semi-Auto/Present LEO use?

Hi there all,



Another daunting poll to ascertain what "Semi-Auto" rides in the holster of your local LEO agency?



The purpose of this poll is to see if we can a trend in handgun LEO use among local agencies in your municipality of residence.



While many of us live in "over lapping" jurisdictions of enforcement, please vote based on the largest agency that overseas your area of residency.



This will serve as a "non scientific" poll and please feel free to comment if you have noticed a historical evolution or trend based on budgeting, agency testing, procurement or "lead agency" influence.



Thank you in advance for participating in this "informal" poll.



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Old 03-04-2007, 08:18 AM   #2
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Our local police department is furnished with Glock M22 & M23's [.40cal], uniformed and plain clothes. The county sheriff's department mostly uses wheel guns, but its a mix of both because they buy their own and are subsidized by the county.



The city guys I know carry backups, S&W five shots snubs, I relate to the older guys, they [3] all carry 2" M36, the younger ones that I know [2] carry M642's. Ah, to be young again, but I wouldn't want to have to go through all the crap again.



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Old 03-04-2007, 08:44 AM   #3
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Mr. Chris,



The largest agency of my residence would the county SO. It still issues Glocks in 40s, but also allows personal weapons too. I am seeing more and more Sigs in a lot of holsters, which really does make me smile.



On a more encouraging note, AZ DPS carries a Sig in 40, and many of the local federal agencies are in the process of converting from Glocks to either Sigs or H&Ks depending on which agency they actually were prior to the formation of DHS.



So I think if I am seeing any type of real trend recently, it is one where agencies are allowing officers to carry personal weapons instead of the issued Glock pistol, or are replacing the issued Glocks with other brands - primarily Sigs or H&Ks. Knowing me as you do, I suspect you can picture the grin that causes me too, lol.



I am aware of some of the deals my agency received in the past on issued weapons. When we converted over to pistols we first used a Smith auto. Ten years later we changed over to Glocks, and did not pay much more for them than we had for the Smiths 10 years before - again marketing strategy mostly.



Our firearms folks had selected two Sig models for purchase, but some bean counter at Headquarters decided Sigs were too expensive and on their own selected Glocks instead. Things that make you go hmmmm. The guy making the decision had probably never fired a weapon in his life, yet he was magically allowed to over rule the folks we paid to select and maintain our weapons.



Finally we are slowly replacing the Glocks with Sigs. We will also be changing from a 9mm Glock to a 40 Sig. We do get a discount from Sig on a large purchase, but not really that great a price. I am just glad to see that bean counter must have retired or been transferred now, because we are finally getting Sigs. I accept that Sigs are not inexpensive to purchase, but I think they go give you an awful lot of gun for the money too.



It will be intersting to see if there is any sort of trend developing on issued or authorized weapons now.



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Old 03-04-2007, 09:23 AM   #4
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The only "big" city in my county issues Glock 17s to both patrol officers and plainclothes investigators. Not sure about issue ammo. The SO issues the Model 22 and Ranger ammo (165-grain, I believe). I know one officer who sometimes "forgets" and carries his Glock in .357 Sig, and I know another who sometimes has a memory lapse and ends up packing a 10mm. (One of these officers has 25+ years of experience, while the other has over 35 years.)



The SO's reserve officers pretty much get to carry anything they can qualify with, including one I know who carries a BHP Practical in .40. Most reserve officers carry the Model 22 Glock.
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:40 AM   #5
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Glock just gave the county a break on a price they couldn't refuse. I think most will be packing .40 calibers very soon.
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Old 03-04-2007, 09:42 AM   #6
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Our township police carry Sig P220s and they seem happy with them. Regards, Richard
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Our department switched to the Grock. With the exception of one or two sights that are in transition now. We ussue/use the G-22.



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Old 03-04-2007, 01:01 PM   #8
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GLock 17 mostly for local police, and two-town sig-sauers(Ithnik in .357 but maybe its .40) for the Ohio State troopers.
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Old 03-04-2007, 02:50 PM   #9
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We changed from revolvers to Smith autos. Everyone liked them and we had no real problems with the guns both full size 45s and compacts. Then a new chief who was high up in the Association for Chiefs of Police came in. We immediatly changed to Glocks. No one who tried them before changing liked them and recommended that we stay withthe Smiths or go to sigs, but as we all know the ASS for Chiefs of police. (who, by the way are usually not policemen, but have degrees in public administration) believe that Glocks rule. Besides, Glocks sell em cheap. We started haveing trouble with failure to go bang (model 21 mostly, but some model 30s).Glock says it does not happen, that you can toss the gun in the mud and it will still go bang, and it never goes bad, never has a problem and they never have had a "recall". They did quietly replace some of the parts but only in those guns that were complained about, not in all guns used by the dept. I personally had 5 failures to fire in a row while qualifiying. Each of those rounds went bang when run thru my old Smith. That is not a confidence builder, let me tell you. I have since retired. I sold the Glock!!!! Incidently, I see on other forums that Glock is selling Iran 30,000 Glocks..............so, it is true, money trumps everything else......file me under one who doesn't trust Glocks or Glock.
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We, the NYSP, currently have Glock 9mm's but are changing over to 45GAP Glocks this summer. No real complaints with the Glock platform, the 9mm on the other hand, well, I was happier with my trusted 681 S+W 357 mag. But that was close to 20 years ago...
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