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Old 01-22-2009, 08:58 AM   #1
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Well I went and did something I hope I am not sorry for. Long before the supposedly "Anointed One" even thought about throwing his turban into the ring for the Presidency, I started looking at the AR-15. I was not really into buying one as I have an SKS that I dearly love and have been shooting for many years. But I am beginning to believe that if you don't own at least one AR-15, you are un-American. I went into my favorite gunshop yesterday, who had been out of any semi-auto rifles for several months now, and not able to get any more, to buy some SKS ammo. As I was walking in they were pulling a Bushmaster Carbine with telescoping stock out of the box. The shop owner opened it and then opened the case. I asked to see it and pulled the stock out to it's full length. I really like the light weight of the gun so I went ahead an bought it. They cut me a pretty good deal according to what I have seen here on the forum as far as prices go.



My question is did I do right by buying a Bushmaster brand. I notice it has a one (1) year warranty and the other brands, mostly have lifetime warranties. I noticed that the rear sight is all the way to the left, so my question is doe they test fire these at the factory and if so...should I be concerned???



This is only a plinking, fun gun but if I really get to like it it may get much more use.



Anything I should be looking for, that is usually problematic, since it is a Bushmaster brand?



I am new at this and am really asking for some help here. If possible just facts and little or no personal opinions. They tend to get swayed by personal experience with only one gun and never given the chance to try again...you know the "One Bad Apple spoiling the whole bunch" scenario.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:17 AM   #2
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Hello. I've owned a Bushmaster carbine for over a decade now and it has yet to malfunction. That said, I doubt that I've fired it over a couple of hundred shots w/o cleaning before the next session. Accuracy at 100 yards (when scoped) is around 1" or so with 55 and 60-gr. bullets. My gun doesn't have the faster twist to stabilize the more current heavier bullets in this caliber.



Before retiring from police service and while in the role of police firearm instructor, I saw perhaps 8 or 10 of the Bushmasters come through for qualifications and they worked just fine.



I would not be afraid to buy another one at all.



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Old 01-22-2009, 01:07 PM   #3
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The only issue I ever had with my Bushmaster M4gery is that the screws holding down the bolt carrier key weren't properly staked, so I started to get problems when they started loosening up. There was a time when this wasn't an uncommon issue with Bushies, from what I understand reading around the 'net. I had a gunsmith friend properly stake the carrier (this is really quite simple, and I certainly could have done it myself - http://mayonaise1959.blogspot.com/20...y-staking.html ) when I realized what was happening, and I've not had a single problem since. Like Mr. Camp, however, I've never gone more than 200 rounds between cleanings.
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I lent my camera to one of my staff for a wedding this weekend and she just brought it back to me, so here are the pictures:







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Old 01-22-2009, 02:04 PM   #5
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Gents,



I've had several Bushie's and you'll get no complaints from me. All have been accurate and reliable. I fact I can't ever remember having a stoppage in one.

The Bushie M-4 is my "go to" rifle.



Feel free to buy with confidence..., IMHO.



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The only issue I ever had with my Bushmaster M4gery is that the screws holding down the bolt carrier key weren't properly staked, so I started to get problems when they started loosening up.


Wow, I had that problem recently, too. I staked it myself, and it seems I did it right, as the screws won't turn. At least it's not a huge job.
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Hello tex45acp,



I think very highly of Bushmaster products.



After buying an M-4 for myself almost a year and a half ago, I am just about convinced that they are as "good as they get".



So much so, that when I built my USMC son a home-built M-4--I used all Bushmaster lower parts.



I suspect that you won't be disappointed at all.



Best of luck and congradulations!



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Old 01-22-2009, 07:58 PM   #8
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Thanks to all of you for letting me know I did not get taken. I could not find the model number on their website, so I called and found out that it is a special order for one of their big distributors. Basically it's a M4 Police Carbine with the A1 designation, whatever that means...I am still learning about what it all means. Looking forward to getting it to the range this weekend for a test of function and accuracy.



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I know, I know, it's only a Bushmaster, generally considered one of the lowest end, poorly built AR's out there. Well according to what I have read here and at several other forums I frequent, they can be made to be dependable and a decent gun, that shoots fairly accurately. First, I torqued and restaked the gas key cap screws, though I did not replace them with larger ones per the suggestion of one post I read. I also retorqued and staked the castle nut as suggested. Two major problems according to what I read here. My next change is to the extractor spring setup. I reassembled the gun and headed to the range with a 200 round value pack of American Eagle Tactical 55gr. 5.56 x 45 FMJ's.



I walked out to the 50yard backstop and stuck an 8" Shoot-N-C target on the panel and went back to the shooting line. I loaded 10 rounds and split the orange bullseye dot with the top of the front sight, and centered it as best I could in the center of the rear A1 style peep. I then shot all 10 rounds from a standing position, using the strap wrapped around my left elbow to stabilize the gun. I am new to AR's I don't know what is considered to be a good shooting rifle, but I am very pleased with the results. I read somewhere that the Bushmaster is a decent entry level rifle and I believe I agree with that opinion. With the 200 rounds I put through the rifle today, I now have 350 total and no malfunctions or misfires. Here is the result of that 10 shot effort.



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Hello. I have been more than satisfied with my Bushmaster and hope that yours serves you well, too. From a rest at 100 yards or so, the ones I've shot will do about 2" and frequently less with ammunition the gun "likes". With Federal 55-gr. BalisticTips, my own gun will do roughly an inch at 100 yards for five shots when I have a scope on it. I cannot do that with iron sights or if I am not using a rest and sandbags. That said, I find it very capable of staying in the vitals of an appropriate-sized target of the "animal" I think some buyers are concerned with.



I have not shot any Bushmaster AR-type rifle that grouped over 3" at 100 yards, most doing considerably less as described previously.



No complaints from me on Bushmaster rifles, at least from the time-period in which I purchased mine. I have not shot any newer ones lately so I cannot accurately comment on them. In any event, I hope your rifle serves you well; I suspect that it will.





I am sure that there are some makers of AR's that are "better" than my Bushmaster, but mine shoots tighter groups than I can under field conditions at 100 yards or so and has proven reliable as home-made sin. I like and trust this rifle for sure.



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