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Old 06-05-2017, 09:27 PM   #1
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M1 Carbine

A recent acquisition: M1 Carbine, manufactured in 1943 by National Postal Meter. New stock finished by myself, with a repro sling from At The Front. Bore's in excellent condition.






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Wow that's a beauty! I have a couple of Inlands, but not that nice
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That a really clean, nice looking gun. Now that you got is all slicked up, are you going to shoot it or make it a safe queen?

My brother-in-law gave me one that he had varnished and blued. The bolt had even been jeweled. He called it his pimp gun. I teased him about it until he let me have it. I haven't shot it much, but I do plan on shooting all my guns.
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Looks great Trooper.

Now we just need a range report.

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Looks great Trooper.

Now we just need a range report.

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Range report? Well, the bore's in great shape so that isn't a hindrance. It'll turn in a four inch group at one hundred yards with off the shelf ammo. I might be able to shrink that a bit with some handloads, but that's really all you should expect from these little guns as they weren't made with accuracy as a top priority. So it shoots about as well as you can expect it to. The trigger breaks at an even five pounds with a little creep, not bad at all for an old military gun. That's good since there really isn't much to be done to slick up the trigger on these.

I've read that the range markings on the rear sight were just for nice and I can confirm that. Mine shoots POA from 0 to 100 at the 250 yard setting. With the original two apperture flip sight, the front sight was left tall, to be filed down as a means of zeroing the weapon. Rather than provide more precise elevation, I suspect the later sight type was introduced to make zeroing quicker rather than to really provide more adjustment. The Type 3 barrel band, with bayonet lug, while being less desirable to collectors actually benefits accuracy. The lug actually helps anchor the band in place, whereas the Types 1 and 2 constantly shift around, causing a corresponding wander of the POI.

This ones original stock has an Italian inspection cartouche. About ten years ago the CMP got a load of them back from Italy that had been used by the Carabinieri, essentially the Italian State Police. I'm assuming this is one of those. Given the excellent condition of the weapons bore and all the other metal parts, I'd guess it was overhauled prior to being sent overseas, or sometime soon thereafter. European police forces hardly shoot their weapons compared to their US counterparts and this carbine bears that out, with signs of being carried a lot and hardly fired over the last few decades. So in the end, you can't blame any lack of accuracy on the weapons condition, only on the limits of its mechanics and the ability of the shooter.

I've only fired about three hundred rounds through it so far and it's been one hundred percent reliable. I've only used GI 15 round magazines instead of the aftermarket variety. 110 grain Armscore FMJ has been the ammo used thus far. The weapons light weight has been the biggest detriment to accuracy, as I'm used to shooting far heavier long guns with a bit of weight to hold them down. A good firm grip is really required to keep this one from jumping around, when shooting for accuracy at distance.

Max effective range is stated as 300 yards. Honestly, I think that's a bit optimistic with good effective range probably being half that. At ranges of 25 to 50 yards it's a nail driver. If you judge it in the proper context and keep in mind what it was originally meant for, I think it's a dandy weapon. This is especially true with modern soft point or hollow point ammunition. Jim Cirillo, of the NYPD Stake Out Unit, stated that the M1 Carbine was the units favored weapon. He said it never failed to put a man down as long as something other than FMJ ammo was used. I have tested it against an example of the body armor commonly worn by those of us in law enforcement and it will zip right through, so I don't give much credence to the old Korean War era sea stories of it not penetrating a Chinamans winter coat. I don't know if it would have been my first choice if i was jumping over France or hitting a beach in the South Pacific. On the other hand, if I was in need of a weapon in the here and now and it was all I had to hand? I'd grab it and do Gods work without much concern.
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Heraclitis, 500 BC.

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