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Josh Smith 08-17-2007 11:41 PM

Test By Request: BH 124gr+P GDHP Water/Denim
Handgun: Taurus PT92AF

Ammunition: Black Hills Gold Dot 124 grain +P

Test Media: Water jugs, one gallon each, first jug covered with four layers of denim

I had a request to test some +P Gold Dot ammunition.

I had on hand some Gold Dots as loaded by Black Hills. The factory claims that these 124 grain bullets scoot along at right around 1,250fps, and though I do not have a chronograph, those who do report that they do at least that velocity.


[i:axx902ol]The standard setup from the side

08-18-2007 01:28 AM

Test By Request: BH 124gr+P GDHP Water/Denim
Well, Josh that was a nice test. I needed that info. I'm glad you shared that I'll keep that in mind the next time I do a test . And, I probly won't use those bullets in the future.

Josh Smith 08-18-2007 05:05 AM

Test By Request: BH 124gr+P GDHP Water/Denim

Don't get me wrong; these are good rounds. However, there's no such thing as a "magic bullet" and some have elevated the Gold Dot to such, especially in its more "radical" loadings.

In fact, I believe, and will test in the future, that the slower standard pressure probably penetrates further.

Josh <><

dtwilly 08-18-2007 06:31 PM

Test By Request: BH 124gr+P GDHP Water/Denim
Don't get me wrong. I love informal ballistics tests such as this, and do quite a few of them myself (wetpack). But both these and the more rigorously controlled lab tests with ballistic gelatin don't always jibe with the street results of different ammo. In reality, the Speer Gold Dot 9mm 124g +p round has a stellar record as a manstopper with many police and government agencies. From what I've read, it's probably the most widely used defensive round out there, used by large agencies like NYPD, who are evidently quite satisfied with its performance, with a large data base of success. Head-to-head tests of different brands in the same medium can be useful; it's what keeps me doing these wetpack tests. However, data based on street performance really trumps all the tests both we and the lab techs may do. JMHO.

Josh Smith 08-18-2007 07:43 PM

Test By Request: BH 124gr+P GDHP Water/Denim
The Federal 115gr +P and +P+ had a terrific success rate too ;)

My whole point is that there is no magic bullet.

I think that in this case, the extra velocity may actually be hurting penetration as well.

Josh <><

dtwilly 08-19-2007 07:08 AM

Test By Request: BH 124gr+P GDHP Water/Denim
Josh, your test got me thinking about another interesting question: "designer" loads using bullets like the Speer Gold Dot (Black Hills, Double Tap, etc.), where the bullet is pushed to a higher velocity than that of the manufacturer. I was shocked to see in my recent wetpack test of the Double Tap .380 Gold Dot hollowpoint, that despite a much higher velocity than the Speer loading, the DT didn't penetrate any further or expand any better. I remember Evan Marshall once saying that he always trusts the manufacturer/designer of the bullet (in this case Speer) rather than a "designer" company to optimize the performance of that bullet. I tend to agree, and perhaps your test bears this out.

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