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Old 03-10-2007, 03:35 PM   #1
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Magtech is a lesser-known Brazilian munitions company. According to their website, their ammo is used by the Brazilian military.



I bought some today as the S&W ammo I have is older than I thought, and semi-collectible. I also had a "phobia" about firing +P in my Rossi snub after hearing some horror stories about the results. Luckily, I still have my face and all my fingers, and the revolver is no worse for the wear. I still believe it would be prudent to limit my shooting of +P, but carrying it for defensive purposes shouldn't hurt a thing in my opinion.





This is the Magtech box. I picked it out and I found it had no price tag. I told the salesman what it was likely worth, and he gave it to me for less than I stated. Nice guy.





When I think ".38 Special" I associate it with a lead round. These still don't have the visual appeal for me, but hey, if it works...



I do not have pictures of the actual test. I was sloshing ankle deep in mud due to the melting of the winter's blizzard snows, and I didn't want to expose my camera to that.



My primary range was inaccessible. The creek is actually up over the bridge, and I'll likely have to replace the bridge again this year... figures. So I filled up four one gallon milk jugs and headed out to the backup range. Firing distance was seven yards - I was hoping not to get any water on me as I had forgotten to rinse this batch of milk jugs out! I wasn't disappointed.



If subjective recoil is any indication, this stuff is just barely +P. It felt no different than the standard pressure loadings I've been practicing with, both 130gr jacketed and 158gr Magtech standard pressure LRN.



The round struck the first jug dead center and blew out its sides, and duplicated that performance to a slightly lesser degree on the second. The third was leaking from both the front and the back, and the fourth was dented, but not penetrated. I fished the spend round out of muddy water in between the third and forth jugs (don't you just love what I go through for ya'll? )





The expanded round showed what I would accept as OK performance from a 2" barreled revolver. Not thrilling performance, but OK.



As you can see, it about half-expanded. It held together well, losing a single petal. It was just beginning to exhibit jacket separation. At its widest deformation point, it is a little less than 1/2" wide.



Is this stuff my first choice? No, it's not. The American Eagle (Federal) standard pressure my dealer has ordered likely won't be my first choice either. However, they're acceptable choices while I find what I like best.



http://www.magtechammunition.com/



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Old 03-10-2007, 03:54 PM   #2
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As an addendum: They list their +P 124gr 9mm load at ~1096fps. I almost wonder if they label everything as +P as a precaution or marketing tactic.



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Mr. Josh,



I have no first hand experience with Magtech, nor do I know anyone who shoots it. But that being said, remember that all of the folks I shoot with are using issued carry ammo or something else they have purchased, usually in case lots for practice.



I am certainly no ballistic expert, but from your length barrel, I would certainly think that expansion would be acceptable. Certainly as you noted it was a stop gap measure till your ammo came in.



It would be interesting if you could save that pic, and then do the same test with both the Federal 129+P HS and the Gold Dot short barrel loads. Comparison pics I think would be very helpful to your fellow members too.



Just off the top of my head, since this is a foreign company, their +P designations may well be for liability reasons too. When you suspect your ammo may well be fired in extremely old weapons, many companies may elect to call their loads +P as a sort of warning, they can fall back on if needed. I have no idea, but I have encountered that situation before a time or two, so it is at least possible.



Interesting post since I have heard of this company, but never heard it discussed in this way before. Thank you sir.



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Mr. Twoguns,



Thank you for your thoughts. I did not know that foreign companies operated that way! Plus P on standard pressure... that's a new one on me!



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