Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers? - Handguns and Ammunition Forums
Forum Home    ::    Active Topics    ::    Hi-Powers and Handguns    ::    Stephen Camp's Blog    ::    Contact Us
Go Back   Handguns and Ammunition Forums > Handguns > Revolvers
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10-16-2006, 10:57 PM   #1
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,867
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

Hello. This topic comes up from time to time on other sites and has been discussed here as well and I wanted to see how folks here feel about the NIB S&W revolvers having the integral key lock. Please do not get into politics or why S&W did this. Keep the answers related only to the guns themselves and your preferences.



My own preference is w/o the locks and I personally do not care to own one with such. That does not mean that everyone or even anyone else will agree.



The reason for this is that I have personally seen two lock-equipped S&W revolvers "self-engage" when being fired, though I didn't see this on the same day. I have also seen more that worked just fine.



I am satisfied that most S&W's with the lock work fine and that the problem-rate is quite small, but that your gun's hanging up due to the lock being "statistically insignificant" is pretty meaningless if it should fail in a bad situation.



Best and thanks in advance.
Stephen A. Camp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2006, 03:02 AM   #2
Administrator
 
Josh Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Wabash IN
Posts: 2,949
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

Mr. Camp,



I will absolutely NOT own one. They are a hazard. There is a board, which I will not mention here because I just don't want to flood it, where there is, IIRC, a whole FORUM dedicated to this problem and its fixes. It is much more common than generally known.



The Taurus clones do not seem to have this problem because of the location of the lock.



Josh <><
__________________

Josh Smith is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2006, 03:36 AM   #3
Member
 
Chris Stephens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,385
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

Hi Stephen,



I own a M-642 with the lock and the M-65, M-60 and M-629 without the lock.



In terms of actual functioning, there seems to be no difference for me. My preference is not to have the lock, but it will not stop me from buying one with the lock.



I have a geniune passion for S&W revolvers, but can honestly say that if I saw one today at the range with a lock, I'd probably buy it.



Chris
__________________
Proud member of the Horry County Tokarev Society.
Chris Stephens is online now   Reply With Quote
 
Old 10-17-2006, 06:00 AM   #4
Member
 
erich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Posts: 1,579
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

I had no problems with the locks or the MIM when they came out - but after I had a 60-15's lock self-engage (went cross-ways in its slot) after I oafishly knocked the unloaded gun off a counter onto a hardwood floor, I reconsidered my position on the lock.



I feel it's poorly designed. The impact that my gun suffered is not dissimilar from what a gun might be expected to absorb in a struggle with a felon. I would not have the luxury of digging out the key and unlocking it during such a struggle, and I would want my gun to work. I feel the Taurus on-the-hammer lock is a much better design.



Anyway, they can keep their S&Ws with the locks - it's a shame, because I like their new revolvers and am excited by several new models. :-[ I'll never buy one, though.
erich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2006, 08:07 AM   #5
Administrator
 
Bob Reed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,178
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

Hello,



NO, I will NOT own a S&W with the lock.



Why anyone would spend money on something that Flat Can't be Trusted is beyond my comprehension. No offence Chris.



Take Care,
__________________
"LONG LIVE THE FN-BROWNING-SAIVE HIGH POWER"

John Browning & Dieudonne Saive's Designs Will Always be Light Years Ahead of All the Others.

I'd rather beat a bad guy to death with my Browning High Power, than shoot him dead with a plastic pistol.

Fighting Tyrants & Traitors is a 24/7 Job that Must be Done!

The Second Amendment was not written in order to protect your right to shoot deer, it was written to protect your right to shoot tyrants if they take over the government. ~ Judge Andrew Napolitano

Free Men Do Not Ask Permission to Bear Arms. ~ Thomas Jefferson
Bob Reed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2006, 09:15 AM   #6
Member
 
Chris Stephens's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 4,385
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

Hi Sockman,



No problem. Should I ever have a problem with mine, I would probably feel the same way!



So far, so good.



Chris
__________________
Proud member of the Horry County Tokarev Society.
Chris Stephens is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2006, 11:31 AM   #7
pgm
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 321
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

Mr. Camp,



I will not own one with the lock, a malfunction being my primary concern.



I also feel that they spoil the looks of the revolvers somewhat.



PGM
pgm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2006, 01:52 PM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 22
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

I'm only now getting back into my favorite hobby..handguns. I retired (at 60) recently, and have the time to go to the range every day. I've owned a S&W .357 Model 65-3 "K" frame for 2 decades. It is a joy.



Just this week, I bought a S&W Model 637 having concluded I'm a Wheelman at heart. I'm picking it up Friday. Since obtaining a CHL here in Texas last year, I've used a KAHR P9 as my carry gun due to it's size and reputation. It's a fine weapon... just never cozied up to it, however.



I suppose the NIB 637 has the "key lock" being discussed. I'll let you know what my thoughts are after I get into it. I recall hearing about S&W and the "lock" controversy. Really not sure of the dynamics involved.



At any rate, it's nice to find a forum for handgun fans!
coastalkid5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2006, 09:20 PM   #9
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

For a sport-shooting revolver, I can tolerate the presence of the lock. But for personal defense, its track record of problems does not inspire confidence and any of the uncountable 10's of thousands of pre-lock Smiths on the used market are my preference.



However, there will be a lot of really nice Smith revolvers for sport shooting in the future worth owning, and they will have the lock. Unless you will be hunting dangerous game, the lock won't be a significant practical problem, IMHO.





  Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2006, 03:17 AM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 67
Yea or Nay on S&W Key Lock Revolvers?

I'm with Chris, I would prefer the gun w/o the lock but it would not stop me from buying one. In fact I have two w/ the lock, a 642 and 625 and have had no problems
kcii is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Search tags for this page
define no dash no lock
,

key lock revolver

,
key locks on revolvers
,
keylock on revolvers
,
keylock revolver
,

revolver key lock

,
revolver keylock
,
revolver unlock key
,
s&w 24-6 revolver
,
s&w m&p 360 no lock
,
s&w revolver lock discontinued
,

what is a key lock on a revolver

,
what is a key lock revolver
,
whats a key lock on a revolver
,
whats a key lock on new revolvers
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Slide Lock jfreeman Pistol, Revolver & Long Gun Smithing 4 08-04-2010 06:57 AM
Getting that infernal lock out of a 642 Pistol, Revolver & Long Gun Smithing 10 12-22-2006 09:36 AM
642 WITH LOCK Revolvers 7 08-05-2006 04:49 PM
Brand-new no-lock S&W 37-2 for me! erich Revolvers 29 01-20-2006 06:40 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.