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Old 11-10-2008, 07:54 AM   #1
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40 S&W lead bullet load

Greetings! I am just starting to load for a CZ 75 and want to use 180 gr lead bullets. Any thoughts about powder selection etc. would be appreciated. Thanks much!
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:24 PM   #2
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Howdy Mr. 220slow,



I do reload the 40 S&W, but do not reload lead projectiles. My reloads are simply designed to equate to my factory carry loads, so they are loaded with JHP projectiles.



I did check a couple of reloading manuals, just to give you some idea of the powders they list, with the minimum and maximum powder charges listed. But again, I can not give you info for my "pet load", as I don't load lead bullets sir.



Richard Lee's Modern Reloading, 2nd edition listed the following data (*):



180 GRAIN LEAD BULLET MIN CHARGE MAX CHARGE MIN OAL

Power Pistol 6.5 (923 mv) 6.9 (977) 1.125

Unique 5.2 (919) 5.5 (973) 1.125

Amer-Select 4.6 (854) 5.0 (912) 1.125

Bullseye 4.2 (853) 4.5 (911) 1.125



185 GRAIN LEAD BULLET

Accurate Arms no. 7 7.4 (900 mv) 8.2 (990) 1.120

Accurate Arms no. 5 5.4 (886) 6.0 (975) 1.120

Accurate Arms no. 9 8.7 (869) 9.7 (956) 1.120

Accurate Arms no. 2 4.6 (856) 5.1 (942) 1.120



I found the following data on-line, using the Accurate Arms condensed/complimentary Load Guide Version 3.2.2. I have volumes 1, 2 and 2 Revised of their printed manuals, as in my view, it is never a bad thing to have mulitple manuals to obtain data from. But I opted to use their condensed on-line info, as if you do not have their manual, you could easily confirm this data and find addition info on-line as a source for info (**):



185 GRAIN LEAD BULLET MIN CHARGE MAX CHARGE MIN OAL

[185 LC RNSWC (L)]

Accurate Arms no. 2 4.6 (829mv) 5.1 (942) 1.120

Accurate Arms no. 9 8.7 (841) 9.7 (956) 1.120



{185 LC SWC (L)]

Accurate Arms no. 7 7.4 (871) 8.2 (990) 1.120



[185 LC TC(L)]

Accurate Arms no. 5 5.4 (858) 6.0 (975) 1.120



I chose to list data for the 185 grain lead projectiles, as manuals routinely note that it is safe and permissible to use data for slightly heavier bullets when loading comparable type of projectiles. No reduced powder charges are required as these two weights are so close. I also chose to list the various shapes, as their data reflected them. There were no such distinctions noted in the Lee manual that I could offer, as it simply listed things as I noted above.



(*) I have included the following quote from this manual, simply to explain how they organized the manner in which they listed these powders: "The load data section in this book makes powder selection very easy. The loads are sorted by bullet weight and velocity. The one at the top of the list, for any specified bullet, is the highest velocity and the one at the bottom being the lowest velocity. The loads at the top or near the top should be your first choise."



(**) Accurate Arms has recently been purchased by Western Powders, but it still lists itself on the web as Accurate Arms. I stated this so if you begin to see either Accurate Arms powders or Western powders in newer manuals, you would know they are the same product.



Hope this gives you at starting point at least sir. But again, since I have never loaded any non-JHP bullets in this caliber, I can not offer any pet loads using lead bullets. But hopefully other members who do, will be willing to share their personal pet loads.



Btw, I also have the 75B in 40, so I share your taste in brands. Of course, I also have an FN HP in 40 that I am very fond of, along with other brands as well. I am not a major fan of the 40 S&W round, but appreciate the fact that this caliber can very easily be converted over to the 357 Sig, which I am a major fan of.



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Old 11-14-2008, 05:53 PM   #3
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Thank you Mr. Two Guns. I will let you know how things go
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:07 AM   #4
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Gents,



I've found that a 170 grain cast SWC over 6.0 gr. of AA#5 and a Winch small pistol primer works exceedingly well from my BHP .40.

Sorry, but that the only .40 I own...



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Old 12-12-2008, 05:01 PM   #5
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I use 185 grain moly coated RNFP's. I can load them a bit hotter than lead.
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Old 03-04-2009, 12:38 PM   #6
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I have used lead bullets in the 40. Mostly was using 155 grainers obtained locally. I had good luck with Uniuqe and HP38.
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:37 PM   #7
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Here are my favorite .40 S&W loads FWIW



155 gr. LRN, 5.0 gr. Unique

175 gr. LSWC, 5.2 gr. Unique

180 gr. TC, 5.2 gr Unique

180 gr. TC, 4.6 gr Bullseye

180 gr JHP, 5.6 gr Unique

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Old 04-22-2009, 09:46 AM   #8
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I was told by Alliant Powder Co. that I could use 4.0 - 4.5 grains of Red Dot with a 170 grain cast lead bullet, but they didn't give any velocity or pressure data, which I thought was strange.



Anyway, I was recently given a 12 lb. keg of the stuff, so naturally I want to use it in everything.



One correspondent told me he used 4.3 grains for years, but no velocity or pressure info from him, either. Anybody know the numbers?



Thanks
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