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Old 01-01-2005, 09:20 AM   #1
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I have yet to try any of the Ramshot powders. Has anyone noticed that they list for the .45 ACP a 230 gr. JHP at 1060 and a 200 XTP at 1165 at *normal* .45 pressure. In fact almost 1,000 PSI under acceptable normal .45 pressure!



I have loads that exceed both of those but I labor under no delusion that they are slightly over +P pressures.



Anyone tried any of this stuff?

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Jim
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Old 01-02-2005, 09:07 AM   #2
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Believe Mr. Mueller has (Please excuse the Mr., but am not posting to ya directly). His postings on another board (Shootersville) got me interested.



Haven't tried the loadings yet, but did buy the powder. While the heavier loads listed are for the Sierra 230 gn jhp, would be more interested in the HDY, Speer or Rem 230 gn.
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Old 01-02-2005, 10:55 AM   #3
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Zeke, this is pure speculation but due to the large cavity on the Sierra I expect that the Hornady XTP and the Remington Goledn Saber might actually produce even less pressure (or perhaps it would take a bit more to drive them that fast) in either case they should work.



Not sure about the Gold dot or the Winchester JHP they sell for reloading (I load both but I don't load the Sierra to compare them with). I suspect the same specs could be duplicated by working up.



But again, just speculation. I should be able to get some in the near future.



Thanks for the feedback!

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Old 01-02-2005, 04:02 PM   #4
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Hello,



I have used Enforcer and I like it.



From my short review on Shootersville.



"This morning, in between strings of fire, they were holding a qualification on the range, who knew, I was able to get in some shooting.



The starting load was 15.2 grs Enforcer, 200 XTP OS (old style) Win brass and WLPP, OAL 1.215.



I fired two 10 round strings and the average was 1042 fps with an sd of 10, from a 5 inch barrel ( Chronograph at fifteen feet), was able to use the Chronograph on the range to do this.



I fired fifty rounds, all without any signs of pressure and cases were ejected about six feet as per norm, with this pistol.



I had ten rounds loaded at 15.7, but was getting absurd readings from the chronograph, the rounds that did read were at 1120,1160, 1145 fps with the remaining rounds either reading as an error or at extremes of velocity. (2927 fps, 2703 fps) No signs of excessive pressure was encountered with this load either.



Accuracy was very good, with the limited shooting I was able to do.



On the whole I like what I have seen so far and I like the fact that I can break the 1000 fps barrier without loading to maximum.

I am looking forward to more testing. "



Note: Range Chrono was getting light into one of the sensors and was the reason for the adverse reading. I verified this at a later date. First velocity testing was in the morning, later string was late afternoon.



I terminated my Chronograph with a 530 gr Minnie (58 cal) earlier this year so I was not able to do any further velocity testing at home, but I have reloaded 230 GDHP (checked with the reps at Ramshot first, before I switched a component) and have had no pressure signs ejection is about six feet and accuracy is good.



Further testing and evaluation with the 230 gr tips are scheduled for this summer.



I am happy with this powder and once the stocks of other powders I have are used up, will be replacing it with Enforcer and I hope to get the .357 (686) out and try loads in it.



Hope this helps.



Regards, Mueller



Note: If you want to switch to a different tip, give the reps a call, they have done a lot of testing with various makers product, but only publish a limited number in thier circulars.



I was interested in using True Blue in the 45 ACP and they actually sent me a six page printout with various tips and loads, that they had tested during load developement. I basically duplicated my results with Blue Dot, this was prior to discovering the Enforcer powder.

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Mueller;

Thanks much for the report. It sure sounds like their data is on the money.



Ironically I just picked up a can this afternoon. Havent' loaded it yet. I looks a lot like Acurate #9. Hope my powder measure will handle it.



Muchos Gracias,

Jim
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Old 01-02-2005, 09:29 PM   #6
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Hello Mr. Higginbotham,



Glad, I could help.



I have the lyman powder measure #55 and I find that it throws very consistently, but then I weigh every charge and trickle to make up for any variance in a particualr throw, overlap habit from loading match rifle ammunition .



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Old 01-02-2005, 09:37 PM   #7
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Roger that Mueller, I have a couple of 55s but I use a variety of different measures on my progressive presses.



Oddly enough the one I have the most powder problems with is the Dillon on which I would be loading .38 or .357.



My Clyde, which is set up for .45, has a pretty well machined charge bar and brass bushing setup which might be able to use the stuff without gumming up the works though I have never tried any of the finer ball powders in it.



My .40 S&W setup is a lee Loadmaster (don't ask...it is a sad story)...not sure it will work out but there is a great .40 Caliber load listed for this powder also.



Oh, well, we all need a challenge :)

Thanks again!

Jim
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