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Old 08-17-2007, 05:19 AM   #1
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Hope I got it right this time, Bob



So, I decided to buy a Norinco 1911A1 in near future as a customizing base. I don't have the gun yet, but I did some virtual shopping meanwhile:



[b:tvxpyijn]136387 Wilson Combat 2-Piece Recoil Spring Guide Rod with Recoil Spring Plug 1911 Government Stainless Steel Saatavilla
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:21 AM   #2
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Hello Wheez, yes this is the proper section.



I personally wouldn't change the GI Sights for love or money. No offence to those that do, but, I've just never seen the point in putting big anti-aircraft sights on a pistol (no pun intended). I also wouldn't swap a GI Style Guide Rod for love or money.



I would also at least use the Deluxe Hammer & Deluxe A2 Sear. Why skip on the important stuff?



I also personally have no desire to own a trigger with holes and a set screw.



Springs: I only use the Original Factory Specified Spring Weights in all my guns. In this case it'd be a 16lb. Recoil Spring & 23lb. Mainspring. Note: I do understand people having to use a reduced power spring with lightly loaded target ammo for reliability reasons. Same goes to the people that use an extra-power spring to avoid battering when shooting hot loads.



I certainly understand you wanting to order everything from one place, especially since your in another country. I would kinda wanna do the same if I was in your shoes. However, I would seriously consider taking the money you have planned on spending on the sights and invest it in the #10 Ignition System by Dane Burns. I'd also use Dane's #14 Hard-Use Trigger.



Here's the link to Dane's Part's Page so you can see the parts I mentioned above. Notice, the #10 Ignition System is expensive at first glance, but, it contains 3 Parts (hammer, sear & disconnector). http://www.carryguns.com/showcat.php?cat=Parts



Edited to add: Big Safety Levers do nothing for me personally. The current Factory Colt "tear-drop" style lever is what I prefer, or one thats shaped just like it. I also don't care for high ride grip safeties or extended slide stops (while slide stops aren't on your list, I just thought I'd mention them as well since we're talking). For a grip safety, I don't like any of them that have a clearence notch for the hammer (the notch can get debris in it and tie up your gun!). So, I'd either modify/relieve the tang to accept a commander hammer or I'd use one of King's Grip Safeties that doesn't have the hammer notch.

http://www.kingsgunworks.com/newcatalog/page03.html



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Old 08-17-2007, 10:50 AM   #3
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It seems that you have a "thing" for those GI stuff, but since 1911s aren't connected into my countrys history in no way really, I don't have any special feelings for those GI style things.



What comes to sights: I like the look of Novak styles.



About sear and hammer: Thanks for the info on the deluxe stuff, midway Finland doesnt have a deluxe version of the hammer, but i found the sear you mentioned. Im a total rookie what comes to 1911s or tuning guns. One of the main reasons im doing this is to learn do stuff myself. I have to reconsider about the Dane thing, but it's sort of a shame, cos i wanted to make it especially Wilson Combat-gun. I have this thing for having a "full set", I dislike having one part from Manufacturer A and another from B, third from C.



About guide rod: I watched AGI 1911 45 Auto Armourers Course and the guy on the video said that longer guide rods are slightly better (cant remember If it was to absorb recoil or was it to make the gun last longer).



Grip safety and "tactical safety": Again I only have two words for this: Wilson Combat. I did think that the extended safety would be sort of useless, cos we can't carry guns here anyway, so not for self defense. In the same AGI video I watched earlier, the guy said personally he found extended slide stops useless, so I didnt consider one, but he said extended safeties are nice.



Trigger: I personally liked the look of it, and once again: Wilson Combat



Springs and pins: Not like I wouldn't trust Norincos ones, but once again to get more Wilson inside the gun.



Final words: Ill replace the sear at least with the deluxe sear. Gotta see what comes up..



EDIT: Just realised I still have more chances to put some Wilson in: Extractor and firing pin. There would also be some other parts, but extractor and firing pin would be only parts I would replace anymore.



EDIT2: The site is Midways Finnish version. So I don't even need to use a credit card to get those parts, and they're all available. Even tho I'll be getting Wilson Combat mags from USA cos they cost hell of a lot from the finnish Midway-site.
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Hello Wheez,



I used to consider myself the "King of Aftermarket Parts" when it came to taking a perfectly fine 1911 and dropping in a bunch of Wilson Combat Parts. I really thought the first "conversion" I did that ole Bill would be sending me a Christmas Card as a token of thanks for all of the money I spent with him.



Finally, I built 2 1911's within a year of each other and used all of Bill Wilson's stuff in them.



You have made some really fine choices and I admire your determination to "upgrade" your 1911.



Now, much older, wiser and poorer, I chose only to put in those parts that will make the 1911 work for me. Long Match trigger, 20 LPI checkered flat mainspring housing, match sear, bullet proof firing pin and stop.



There are probably better choices for me, but Bill's stuff works great in my present 1911, a SA GI Champion (and it does shoot like a Champ!).



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Old 08-17-2007, 12:29 PM   #5
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If you like one, think I'll get Bills bullet prood firing pin also
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Old 08-17-2007, 05:52 PM   #6
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Ok.. Removed something, added something. Could be I keep the original sights, gotta see how they original ones work, cos 100
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When you add the cost up you could probably by something like a Springfield Loaded allready set up, but you mentioned wanting to do it yourself and I can understand that. In that case why even start with a complete gun of questionalble quality, once all is said and done you still have a Norinco. Order an Essex, or Caspian frame and slide, and a high quality barrel, seems like you are planning on replacing everything else anyway. for less than $350 you can get an enhanced Essex reciever slide allready machined for Novak sights and some custom machining like lowered ejection port allready done.
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Can't get Essex or Caspian from Finland. A local gun magazine made the same Norinco shoot 20mm piles. As default it shot like 70-110mm.



Also I will get a new barrel for it.



And yes, i got no use for a .45, i find 9x19 superior. Just that its easier and more fun to customize a 1911, cos there are so many kinds of aftermarket parts.



The finished project would look abit like this: http://www.historicwood.org/ia/img/HR_york.jpg



Even though the hammer, beavertail and trigger would be diffrent style, and wouldnt have engravings (except for maybe my birthday). But all "little parts" on the outside would be stainless-look. Also ms. housing would be stainless flat with 20 LPi checkering



Now i've been thinking, should I also titanium nitride the barrel, or leave it stainless... Would be nice to have it stainless, cos it looks goo with the golden look. Then again would be cool to also have the barrel look golden.
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:41 PM   #9
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Was planning on getting a Wilson Combat barrel also, but that would take half of my lifetime. I will at some point, but for starters:



I was looking at a Wilson Combat group gripper? ANy experience on these? Norincos fittings are known to be not that good, so would the group gripper help alot?
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With the Norincos I've home-smithed for myself, never found the need to do more than:



-Replace the sights with something more visible; either night sights for the defensive Norks or fiber optic front mated with wider-notch rear for game guns.



-Work on the original hammer/trigger/sear/mainspring etc. to smooth up and lighten the pull



-Put 3M Safety Walk stairtread tape on the front strap.



-Perhaps put on slightly better looking stocks.



For me it's been more useful to apply the saved funds towards ammo and practice/training. But to each their own.



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