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Old 03-03-2012, 01:32 PM   #1
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LPA Fiber Optic Sights

As many of you know I had one of my HPs highly modified by Don Williams at Action Works. Someone I would highly recommend if you have the patience to wait. Anyway one of the things he did was install LPA adjustable fiber optic sights. They required some milling to install and Don did a great job in doing so along with modifications to the front sight to make everything work. I've put somewhere around 1000 rounds through this pistol without a hitch (except for the 1st magazine).

The LPA sights are basically BoMar clones, made in Italy I believe. They are sturdy and well built, they hold zero but have one glaring weakness/shortcoming. The hinge pin that holds the adjustable part of the rear sight in place is a hollow roll pin. It has a tendency to work its way out. If you don't keep an eye on it before going out to shoot, this could make for a very disappointing time. I notice it moving after about 400 or 500 rounds which is good for about 3 trips to the range. On the positive side putting it back in place isn't a big deal and doing so doesn't affect POI.

Also the fiber optic inserts so far have proven to be care free although I don't use this pistol for CC so I don't know how they'd hold up in a holster. I did change things around and made the front FO insert green and the rear two FO inserts red... just works better for me. Changing all 3 inserts took less than 5 minutes and was a simple procedure. All you need is a knife and a lighter. For rapid fire type drills these bright sights put you on target pretty darn fast... even with my old eyes.
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Old 03-03-2012, 07:30 PM   #2
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Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the fibre optic sights. It is really is a personal thing - a bit like whether one likes or hates Glocks.

I find that they seem to work best in twilight conditions as they gather light and the sight/target/background contrast is GTG for those conditions. They don't seem to work any better than, or as good as, regular iron sights in bright sunlight. At least, that has been my limited experience.

My only objection, again a personal issue, is how exposed the fiber rod is to dirt and damage, and the assorted sharpish edges dragging on the inside of holsters (collecting leather, etc.).

But as always, what anyone else (including me) thinks matters naught when it's your gun and your money.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:47 AM   #3
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I find fiber optics to be somewhat fragile. Even in the gentle world of IDPA, I see them break in action. Some can be easily repaired but they are not hardy.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:13 AM   #4
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I use the green fiber optic on my 1911 front site. Like Les says it's very easy to see and if you want to change colors, replacement is a snap. I use the EGW in a Novak cut.

Sorry for the thread drift Les.

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Old 03-04-2012, 11:03 AM   #5
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I posted about these sights mainly to let everyone know about the roll pin issue. I'm going to try a different roll pin and if that doesn't work a solid pin. I have to say though that these sights are solidly built except for that one glaring weakness.

As far as the fiber optics holding up, I haven't had any issues with those. I usually carry a different pistol but this one has been used for CC about 3 times. Not much of a test but it hasn't been a problem with snagging on my holster and no broken fiber optics... unlike with my Practical with factory sights whose front sight snags every time.

Beyond that, I've found the FO inserts to hold up pretty well. So far I haven't needed to replace them for any reason other than to change the color of the front and rear sights. I clean my pistols with Prolix (both the cleaner and their oil) and I also sometimes use the old standby, Hoppes #9. These solvent/cleaners haven't affected the fiber optics. Even if all three inserts were to break, I'd still have usable sights although they'd be more like black on black with a hint of 3 dot with very small dots. I've never shot it without the FO inserts but I did dry fire it at home when I changed out the colors. Still had a good sight picture, just not as bright as my old eyes like.

I don't know if there is a difference in quality of the inserts from company to company. When talking to Don Williams (Action Works) who customized my pistol, he recommended that I only use the ones from Dawson Precision. I've put about 1000 rounds through this pistol with no FO insert problems, 800 or so rounds since I changed the insert colors. For me, FO inserts haven't been an issue at all.
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