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Old 06-20-2011, 10:52 AM   #1
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New feg parts now available

For anyone searching for parts for their FEG pistols, whether single or double action, it appears that Numrich/The Gun Parts Corporation bought out all the spare parts for the ones marketed by the Kassnar/KBI firm. They have four pages of parts listed for the KBI PJK 9HP alone, and I noted slide stops of the FN/Browning design, and also the later ones FEG modified for their P9M models.

I also noted that a PJK 9HP barrel is only around $75. HOWEVER, I WOULDN'T ORDER ONE WITHOUT AN ASSURANCE FROM THEM THAT THE BARRELS ARE FOR THE BROWNING OPERATING SYSTEM. This isn't specified in the parts list, nor are there any photos displayed. A friend of mine bought a new PJK 9HP barrel from KBI just before they closed shop and it was a little over $100. So the lower price shown here makes me a little suspicious of which version they might be selling since the S&W-type barrel was obviously cheaper to make than the FN/Browning style barrel.

The link for parts for the PJK 9HP is:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/...px?catid=12451

The link for manufacturers beginning with the letter "K" is here. You will find both Kassnar and KBI listed here:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/...urers.aspx?s=k

Hope this helps.

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Old 06-20-2011, 04:49 PM   #2
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Funny, as I ordered some parts for the Charles Daly PJK-9HP, and Numrich sent these Kassner parts noting on the invoice they are the same. The Chas. Daly extended safety is a perfect fit in my BHP, and actually works much better then the "wee one"! The round hammers are likewise a drop-in in the BHP(at least in mine). I ordered a few of "this and that" to have as a parts supply inventory, as I doubt that I will quit purchasing, and upgrading BHPs anytime soon.
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:41 PM   #3
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Hi Mister gt40doc,

The FEG story is very complicated, but maybe we can put together an explanation of what is going on with your parts order. The supplier was correct in saying that the parts are the same, but it gets a little more complicated than that.

The FEG P9 As The Charles Daly Hi-Power
First, the Charles Daly Hi Power was the FEG P9 imported by Kassnar/KBI, and finished in the USA by Dan Wesson and Magnum Research. It was a true clone of the FN/Browning Hi Power, and differed from the basic P9 only in having dovetail slots for Express sights and a slightly milled off firing pin retaining plate to accomodate them. It was intended to appeal to slightly more upscale tastes, since this arrangement allowed the gun to have "Made in USA" stamped on it.

The FEG P9 As The KBI PJK 9HP
The FEG P9 was also marketed by Kassnar/KBI as the first version of their PJK 9HP, this first offering of the PJK 9HP also being a true clone of the FN/Browning Hi-Power. So basically, the CDHP and the earliest version of the PJK 9HP were basically the same gun (FEG P9) made in the same factory in Hungary. Parts are interchangeable between them except as noted above.

FEG failed in 2004, and KBI failed in 2010, so neither gun is still being produced.

Really, there is no such thing as a Charles Daly PJK 9HP. Both were P9's dressed a little differently and sold by Kassnar/KBI. If you have one of these guns with both markings on it, that is, "Charles Daly" and "PJK 9HP," I would really like to know about it.

Using one maker's parts in another maker's pistols must always be approached carefully because of differing production tolerances held by different manufacturers. But the practice does indeed exist among owners of Hi Power and Hi Power style pistols made by different companies. I have heard of and practiced using Browning Hi Power parts in FEG Hi Power pistols, but you are the first correspondent who has reported using FEG parts in the Browning gun. I have heard of FEG barrels and small parts sometimes being used to build "parts guns" from parts of diverse manufacture, but you are the first to report using them as a direct substitute for Browning parts in a complete Browning gun. This is very interesting, so please keep us updated on how successful this practice is with your guns.

If you would like to see just how complicated the FEG issue can be, take a look at An Excellent Review On All The FEG HPs by JayPee.. FEG made a number of deviations from the FN/Browning design in its product line, ranging from a changed slide stop to a completely different barrel/slide/frame interface, so make sure you are getting the parts you are really after. I say this because the the importers didn't bother to change their model numbers to reflect the design changes. KBI is known to have marketed four mechanically different versions of their PJK 9HP. You'll understand more of what I mean if you read the blog article referenced above.

Thanks for the good information. You've opened up a new facet of the FEG story for examination.

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Old 06-21-2011, 07:23 PM   #4
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JayPee,
Thanks for the info. I had read that in the past on the Blogs of yours. I started out to just use the Chas. Daly PJK-9HP extended safety in my 1977 245 series BHP, as I liked it better than the C&S safety, but decided to also try the round hammer, while I was changing out the mainspring. The hammers are quite nice, but the finish is not as nice as on the Browning hammers. I stoned the hammer and sear, and installed them. All of the parts work 100%, which is what caused me to order 2 more extended safeties, and 2 more round hammers. I also picked up a couple of extractors, which I believe will function correctly also. Time will tell, but so far, I am pleased with things.
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Thanks for the reply, Doc. On the extractors, FEG never adopted the firing pin safety, so the FEG extractors will not be shaped to accept the firing pin safety found in the later FN/Browning guns. It looks more like the extractor Browning used in its pre-firing pin safety models. Dunno if it will work in a Browning that has the firing pin safety. Let us know, and thanks again.

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Old 06-22-2011, 04:30 PM   #6
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I really purchased the extractors for my older BHPs, and future "projects". My only BHP with a firing pin safety, is my brand new 75th Anni. Model, and I don't think that it will need one anytime soon.

I bought my 1977 245 Series BHP used, and it had a few problems, including extraction problems. The hook looked fine, so I tuned it by removing .007 in. off of the pad to increase tension on the extractor groove(old 1911 trick!!), and installed a new extractor spring. Things work well now, but, just in case, I have a couple of new extractors waiting in the wings.
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Gone forever?

Just came across this thread and was hoping someone would know where to get one of the extended safeties? ...Or if anyone has one they would sell for an inflated price?

I ordered one from Gunpartscorp a little over a year ago and it was defective(machined incorrectly)... So I returned it, and received one that had a casting bubble in it... So, I returned it and they then informed me that ALL the ones they had were blemished like the one I returned...



I contacted them a few months back, and they still don't have any more, and said they won't be getting any more either... I asked if they had any of the blemished ones still, and they said they sold all of them too..

I'm super bummed. ... should have never sent the blemished one back.. The fit and feel of the extended safety was the best I've ever felt... I don't care for the C&S extended safety...

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Old 06-15-2012, 04:49 PM   #8
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Unfortunately, once a number of us BHP "nuts" found out that the Chas Daly/FEG extended left side only thumb safety would not only work very well, but was also very comfortable in operating, we purchased a few for our "parts inventory". Numrich sold out of them quite some time ago, as I tried to purchase 1-2 more. Possibly someone on this forum has a spare that they would consider selling. Good luck.
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I bought one of the last ones available and the ejector tab was broken off of it. It therefore found a new home in my catfish sinker bucket. Bummer.

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The first one had just a small nub for the ejector tab.. so the safety wouldn't stay in the frame...

Would you sell the one with no tab??
I'd buy it.


And I'd still buy one at an inflated price if someone would sell one out of their "inventory."
...This browning was handed down to me by my father. I fell in love with it the first time I ever held it as a kid... And it shoots like a dream too!

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