Got my new Blue Press the other day and was reading through Duane Thomas's article on trigger control. He was talking about a 1911, but I thought I'd try it on my HP. Now I have some questions.
If I drop the hammer, hold the trigger back, then rack the slide there is a click and the trigger drops back a little more. Can someone explain why? Is there any damage being done with this sort of exercise?
Another, more general question. Is it worth the trouble to try to find the reset point, what Duane called 'the link'? In the quiet of my home I can hear and feel the little click when let the trigger forward. But I don't hear or feel anything while I'm on the range. Would a new trigger spring make a difference? (My mag disconnect is gone.) Not being a competition shooter, is it something to worry about?
I have been well satisfied with the stock trigger springs with or without the magazine disconnect removed but am an old-time DA revolver shooter so perhaps that's why. Others speak very highly of using the extra strength trigger-return spring.
The click and trigger moving rearward a bit more when the slide's retracted with the trigger held back is because the lifter is no longer making contact with the slide-mounted sear lever. It is free to move upward a tiny bit more so the trigger moves farther back.
Thank you Mr. Camp. Now that you remind me how the HP trigger mechanism works, that extra trigger movement makes perfect sense. I have more revolvers than autos and shoot them double action, so letting the trigger fall back a ways seemed natural to me. I was wondering if there was something more I didn't understand. I suppose it is the benefit of finding and practicing that short trigger reset.
I'm not a big fan of "catching" or "riding" the link. I let the trigger return all the way, but don't let my finger come off it.
I used to ride the link, and it was probably a by-product of highpower rifle match shooting, but an instructor broke me of it. He was telling us that we would fail to reset it completely sometime and wonder what happened when the gun didn't fire, but I just blew that off because after all, I had so much experience doing it. Of course, I did it before the three-day class ended.
I still think it's a great technique for match shooting, but not for defensive shooting.
sure, it makes for more controlled trigger manipulation.
when you're at the range.
but failing to reset is not a good thing, in a " social " situation.
and " what if " your adreniline is pumping you up so much you only have that last 1/2 lb. of pull weight ?
can we say " oops " children " ?
sorry, no thanks.
that's a precision shooting technique.
not a defensive one.
Natually, I too have heard of "riding the link". And, I noted in a recent Todd J video that he advocates "spanking" the trigger. All of this comes a bit late in life for me but I did pay Clint a bunch of $ at Thunder Ranch to finally figure out what trigger reset is.
Holding the trigger to the rear during recoil is the method I was taught to "follow thru" which basically allows the bullet to clear the muzzle without me dipping the sights. So that much sort of comes naturally. Keeping my finger in contact with the trigger is another technique to be consistent in managing the trigger.
I have rarely short stroked a trigger but I have done it and seen it done. One lurker here, a close friend, may have condemned the P-O LDA system as a result of doing so. I am not sure.
The trigger spring needs to be strong enough to positively reset the entire action. And few of us have any real issue with over coming that spring. Even on a revolver, it is generally only 15 pounds or so. On a semiauto, it is generally 5 or 6 for quality guns in SA mode.
Finally, I am not too sure of my personal ability to feel, hear or execute such fine motor skills in the event of a dynamic critical incident (Rob P for poo poo storm). I hope not to ever find out.
Barry said: "I let the trigger return all the way, but don't let my finger come off it."
Add to that, I can't get the handgun back on target fast enough to benefit from 'riding the link'. And add to that, until now I had never heard of it or thought of doing it. At the range, I often hear PaPOPaPOP. Four rounds in two seconds. For those who can do that, and put all rounds within the nine ring, I commend you. It is beyond me, so I want the first one to count, not the fourth.
oberstlt :
" Holding the trigger to the rear during recoil is the method I was taught to "follow thru" which basically allows the bullet to clear the muzzle without me dipping the sights. So that much sort of comes naturally. Keeping my finger in contact with the trigger is another technique to be consistent in managing the trigger. "
yep, I agree.
Mas Ayoob talks about letting your finger off the trigger for a sure reset.
I don't find that necessary.
Jarrett may be able to " slap it " and be accurate.
I'm not.
Todd ain't like real folks. He can clear a jam in a P-O faster than I can shoot.
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