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Old 05-02-2017, 05:22 PM   #1
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My apologies

I apologize for hijacking Chuntaro's thread about being down to his last shooter. I couldn't find a way to send him a private message so asked a question in his thread and I basically hijacked it. Wasn't my intention.

So here's my question: I'm considering carrying my Hi-Power as a daily carry pistol. If any of you are doing that, what holster have you and why did you decide on it? I've got my eye on several, but not used to carrying that heavy a pistol on my belt. I like a high ride, forward tilt (FBI) because I sometimes only cover with a shirt and need the barrel up high enough to conceal. So what holster do you use?

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Old 05-03-2017, 07:21 AM   #2
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I'll be watching this thread with interest because, like you, I'm I the market for a new Hi-Power holster. Unlike you, I've carried the Hi-Power a whole lot, though for reasons not entirely of my own choosing, I've carried mostly Sigs and Glocks in more recent years. As such I can tell you that IMHO the BHP carries much better than many other pistols that are smaller and lighter, probably because of the way it's shaped and balanced. In fact, my fully loaded BHP weighs almost exactly the same as my fully loaded Glock 22 with TLR-1 light, but the Hi-Power is obviously much less bulky and feels so much better in the hand and in the holster. I also have smaller Glocks without lights, but that doesn't translate to easier carrying nearly as much as you might expect.

Good luck in your holster search, and enjoy carrying your Hi-Power!
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:20 AM   #3
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I sure hope Chuntaro finds this thread because he can answer my question. He answered it several years ago on another forum.........which has been deleted. I decided not to carry the Hi-Power at that time and now I don't have the recommendations he made and the explanations as to why the holsters I'd decided where "possibles" were good ones...........or not.
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BHP for EDC? Um, that would be me.

Holsters: In the past I used a Price Western Speed Sheath for strong side OWB carry and a Horseshoe Leather IWB. What I liked about Andy's (Horseshoe Leather) IWB was that it sat at just the right height on the waistband, concealed well and was/is adjustable for angle. The latter is extremely rare for any holster. That adjustability allows it to be used for AIWB as well. Currently, I am using Desbien's AWIB#4 low ride Hardcore holster full time. It is a good stout holster designed for AWIB and great concealability.

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http://www.desbiensgunleather.com/wp...0/IMG_3597.jpg
IWB Gun Holsters for Firearms, Covert Holsters for Guns, Pistols and IDPA Shooting

Magazine Carriers: Price Western Leather single and double elasticated pouches (see link) has been my choice for a very, very long time. Incidentally, the same time pouches were used by covert operators in Northern Ireland.
Link:https://pwluk.com/en/product/elastic...agazine-pouch/
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Old 05-03-2017, 01:20 PM   #5
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Thanks for the comments and links.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:39 PM   #6
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Once again I'm giving a plug for Andrews leather, his Saddle style for carry and his Hybrid Saddle for competition. Suede lined, FBI cant and keeps the gun close to the body. Leather is soft and subtle with no break in and good fit from the git go. I usually carry my HP in one and from time to time, a CZ 75B. I'm currently waiting on one for a CZ 75 compact with thumb safety which will become my carry pistol. Also, I bought my first Hybrid holster from him around 5 years ago. Between competition and an occasional carry, I can't count how many time my guns have been drawn and holstered and drawn again. They're a bit scuffed up from use but they still fit the guns like when new.

A couple of notes. First, most of you know I compete in (and am a S.O.) with IDPA and also shoot steel. I, for the most part compete with what I carry. I do game it a bit and use Andrews' Hybrid Saddle for that which is very similar to the Saddle one but a "slice" taken out for a faster presentation. That one is reinforced with piano wire sewn into the leather. Since I've learned that the Hybrid secures my pistol pretty darn well (at 68 yrs old, I don't hang upside down from trees anymore), I sometimes use it for carry also. The somewhat of a downside to his holsters is they aren't cheap and you get to wait about 3 months to get one. Worth the wait IMO. Also you can call him for the order (I always do that) or you can print out an order form and mail it to him. If you decide to give his a try and you call him, ask him about his holsters being used in the remake of the Magnificent Seven... he's, rightly, proud of that.

Here's a link to his website: Andrews Custom Leather For some reason his website is setup such that I can't give a direct link to the Saddle holster or the Hybrid saddle. Just click on those on the left side of the page.
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Old 05-03-2017, 06:45 PM   #7
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Interesting............thanks.
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I can speak for the quality of Andy Arratoonian's work, but his health isn't the best these days. When you get into your 80's things get a little harder.

There are other who do fine work. Here's a couple of Eric Larsen's and a cross draw by Wes Dahl.

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Hello there Chris. I have not looked at the "hijacking" but not bothered.

I do not recall the thread or my recommendations at the time.It does sound like you have your holster criteria pretty well defined. That is a good start.

When one requires a high or extra high ride, the need for a dedicated belt made for holster use really gets uber mandatory. Raising the muzzle means the grip and loaded magazine weight will be higher and the belt will need to be up to the task to maintain the gun and holster rigid. A double column magazine pistol butt flopping against the body as you walk may make your stride less than natural. :-)

There are lots of good holster makers out there. With some, what they offer is what you get. Some custom makers are free to allow customer required variations in design. Some big names have serious wait times.

There is a fellow in Arizona near the Gunsite Academy who purchased the old Gordon Davis designs and business name. If you do a google search for Davis Holsters you will get two companies. The one from other than Arizona is named Davis but is not the one doing Gordon Davis holster designs.

If the Davis from Arizona does not have something off the rack to fit your needs he will modify a design to suit your requirements. If you want a tan or brown holster he can make a matching belt. I believe in fashionable accessories even when concealed. If you want black then any black gun belt will do as long as the width matches the slots.

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Old 05-04-2017, 08:08 AM   #10
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Hi Chuntaro. You have a PM in your box.

I'm aware of the things you've mentioned to require in a holster. Your guidance was what I used to buy my daily carry holster.

As far as belts go, I have 3 A Better Ultimate OWB Gunbelts and three Galco dress belts. The A Better belts are wonderful.................and MUCH stiffer than the Galco dress belts. (what a waste of money) The A Better Belts are reinforced with 1/16" of Polypropylene and have held up very well. No sag, no body molding, no tip out. But I've only been carrying a (can I say it on this forum?) Glock model 27. That's why I want your opinions for carrying my Hi-Power. My belts are up to the challenge, but I need a holster that is also. That's why I've sent my options in a PM. I've seen the Davis Leather Company offerings and they don't have a Pancake or Baker style holster.
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