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Old 03-09-2017, 11:37 AM   #1
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FN Hi Power Date?

I am looking at purchasing one I found local but cant seem to figure out what year it is. It has all matching numbers and the serial number is T3115xx. Can anyone help with this. Thanks, Jim

I just don't want to spend to much on it.
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Old 03-09-2017, 12:42 PM   #2
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Jim, officially the 'T' Series BHPs ended atT26100 in 1969 when the 'C' Series started with 69C001. That said, several 'exceptions' have been observed and noted. Search this website for 't series' and 'c series' for some of our past discussions.
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Old 03-11-2017, 07:43 AM   #3
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Hello Jim:

If the "T" is a pre-73 and Browning commercially marked, it is the most desireable T. If only marked FN, it is probably surplus. A nice type 65 T with pouch and manual can bring some significant dollars. Pictures and a further description would be useful.
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Jim, officially the 'T' Series BHPs ended atT26100 in 1969 when the 'C' Series started with 69C001. That said, several 'exceptions' have been observed and noted. Search this website for 't series' and 'c series' for some of our past discussions.
After further research . . .

Blake Steven's says the C series applied to Browning trademarked BHP only. From that we can conclude that FN continued T series numbering FN marked pistols. IF (with emphasis) that is the case, then they would have hit 310000 around late 1971 or early 1972. That is just a guess.

Mind you, Chuntaro's comment that there is a probability that this particular pistol is 'surplussed' (possibly one of the ex-Israeli guns) is valid. That said, there aren't too many good T-series on the market at the moment. To many, the T-series pistol are considered the best fitted, smoothest working BHPs. Guns with history behind them, such as the ex-Israeli pistols, and the T-series are sought after.

You are the only one who can make the call as to whether it is worth the money since; a, it is your money; and b, you are the only one who has seen it and examined (hopefully) it.
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Thank you for the info!! I guess it wasn't meant to be because when I went back to the guy he said he had a 700.00 offer and took it. Without knowing what it was worth I was hesitant to pay the 550.00. Guess I lost out. I am going to keep looking for one.
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Old 03-13-2017, 05:59 PM   #6
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I do not believe you lost out. If it was an FN only T, it would have been mil-surp. I bought two mil-surp FN T series for less than $500 each. FN only inported FN marked HPs into the US in 2002-2004.
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Still, nothing wrong with a surplus gun since any used gun is in actuality 'surplus'. Otherwise, the owner wouldn't be selling it, right?

Trivia question: why didn't FN market FN roll marked guns in the US until recently?
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:29 AM   #8
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I think the difference is what one pays in the market. A used Commercial pre-73 C brings less than the same pistol with a T in front of the numbers. An FN only marked T does not carry the same torch as a St. Louis Montreal T Series Hi Power.

I can only WAG. When Browning was a separate entity and an FN customer, I think FN stayed out of the USA Hi Power market as both a courtesy and a sound business decision. Browning was buying considerably more dollar product in FN Belgium made O/U shotguns, A-5 shotguns, bolt action and semi-auto centerfire rifles.

I do not recall when Browning moved the A-5 production to Japan. Browning began to offer the Japanese built O/U Citori in an addition to the FN Belgium Superposed O/U offering.

FN acquired Browning at or about 1977. It would be interesting to recall the product moves compared to the time of acquisition.

Post purchase of Browning I imagine FN saw no real reason to market the same pistol under both banners. Something obviously altered their thought process around the turn of the century. FN set up shop here in hopes of following the tracks of others in the industry who had benefited from US contracts with a specification concerning made in USA. Maybe FN wanted to remind sportsmen, law enforcement and military personnel they had sixty-five years of success with the hi power around the world in order to generate consumer confidence in the name in preparation for new product offerings.

Somehow I suspect you are going to give us the scoop.
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Good guess Mate. You were close.

Actually, J.M. Browning worked for Colt and FN at the same time, and sold licences to both for some of his designs. It was part of the licence agreement. Colt had exclusive marketing rights for North America while FN had Europe and Asia for shared designs.
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