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Old 01-22-2012, 09:07 AM   #1
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Spinco Recoil Mgt.-Do these work?

I just read about a Spinco Recoil Managment Guide Rod for my Kimber Pro Carry, although they make them for various pistols including the Hi Power.

It appears to be a double spring system.

The cost is $84.95. Pretty pricey.

I'd like to know if anyone here has tried one of these.

Let me know what you think.
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:51 AM   #2
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Here's a review by Steve Camp on the one for The High Power http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/B...%20Sprinco.htm
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High praise from Mr. Camp I should think. However, I generally do not care for full length guide rods for my 1911s. A Kimber Pro Carry may be the exception. As I recall, they have an alloy frame which may benefit from such a system provided that function is not impaired.

Coming from a guy who has tried most of the gizmos and "new/improved" stuff from the 1970's and 1980's, I have sort of quit trying to fix stuff that is not actually broken. I would ask myself what the purpose of the kit is and what can I expect in return from it.

On an alloy gun, not beating up the gun may be a legitimate concern. However, I generally carry allow guns much more than I shoot them. $85 is a lot of ammo....
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Thanks so much. I appreciate the help.
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Old 01-22-2012, 03:59 PM   #5
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adguy,

About the same time Stephen Camp tried the Springco unit I was doing the same.

At almost $90.00 a pop the unit is pricey. It's also BEAUTIFULLY made. The quality is obvious. This is a departure from some earlier units I'd heard about, so a call to Springco's President, Alan Dugger, proved interesting.

According to Alan, Springco had undergone a reoranization and some problem staff was gone. Quality had been upgunned and the company was trying to repair the damage the predecessors had done.

His honesty and sincerety sold me and I purchased a unit for my Hi-Power. It worked perfectly and I have no complaints about it at all.

That said, I backed away from it because it changed the recoil impulse of the Hi-Power enough to where it didn't really feel "right" to me. That's subjective, you might like it.
I went back to using 18.5 lb recoil springs and a buffer.

If you want to try a unit there's no reason why not. I've heard no bad press concerning the Springco unit, so there's no reason you shouldn't give them a try.

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I'm kind of thinking of getting one for a .45.

Wes, did you find the 18.5lb recoil spring works as well as the Springco?
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adguy,

You'll find a number of us that use the 18.5 lb spring in the Hi-Power. Factory weight is 17 lbs.

We're somwhat devided as a group. Many traditionalists use the 17 lb. spring and have no issues, but most run standard pressure ammo in their Hi-Powers.

If you're going to run hotter ammo I'd definetely run the 18.5 lb. spring and a buffer.

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I started using these things about 17 years ago. They used to make them here in Arizona. In a small town South East of Phoenix, Chandler. For over 10 years they have been making them in Texas.

I use them in alloy frame guns to protect the frame. I used to Carry and shoot SIG's for everything. My last carry SIG 228 has over 37,000 rounds through it. Even for competition I always shot full house factory loads. The guns NEVER broke.

Same today. The only guns with the Springco unit are my alloy frame guns. Beretta, SIG, and one of my 22 1911's is a 5" CDP with the Springco unit.

I do not use one in my CCW/EDC Colt LtWgt Commander. That gun doesn't get shot much anyway. Maybe only 1000-1500 rounds a year.

Now Glock has validated the concept too, with their Gen 4's. Most short barreled 1911's (shorter than Commander length) run similar type spring setups too.

You get a little less recoil but many folks don't feel the difference. If you video your guns you will see the recoil diffence. Most folks shooting 9's, will not need it for recoil at all. As I said I used it to go easier on the alloy frames of my guns.

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I have a number of them in various pistols (BER 92, SIG 226, SA XD, HI Power, Glock 35) and here is what I have learned:

They make no difference in felt recoil or muzzle rise, at least none I have ever perceived.

They do stop the slide from battering the frame, and IMHO they are worth the money because of this.

I do NOT recommend them on Glocks since they have "variable" spring rate and the Glock design relies on the recoil spring to hold the slide in battery against the trigger pull force which is loading the striker spring as you pull the trigger. On mine, I can see the slide move slightly out of battery as the trigger is pulled using the dual-spring guide rod, so I chucked it into the closet (available for sale at reduced price).
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