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Old 11-30-2015, 07:24 PM   #1
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Turning to Large Pistols?

Word has it in my neck of the woods that since the attack in Paris, those with Handgun Carry Permits here (East Tennessee) are starting to leave the small carry guns at home and carry larger, service-size or almost-service-size pistols. I know of several cases of this being done among my acquaintances. Is anybody else hearing anything like this?
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:53 PM   #2
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Jaypee,

I've always been of the mind that you should carry enough gun to begin with...one reason that I carry a 9mm, .357 Sig, or .45 ACP. Let's face it if you weren't carrying enough gun before the current state of affairs is a darn good reason to start!

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P.S. Haven't heard of this practice among my acquaintances.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:37 PM   #3
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I agree, Wes. Someone a lot smarter than me once posted that one usually selects a pistol on the basis of the situation he foresees himself becoming involved in. And with the proliferation of small carry pistols, I think a lot of HCP holders were thinking along the lines of a mugger, etc. But like you say, now that we have lived through the Paris experience, I think a lot of us are going to be reevaluating that perception and the guns it placed in carry holsters.

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Old 12-01-2015, 12:04 AM   #4
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I have been following the situation in Paris also. I have been reevaluating myself, the guns i have for defense.
I cannot carry but i have my 9mm BHP, my S&W .357 Magnum, Remington R1 1911 .45 & Wilson Combat 1911 Classic .45, also, as SD guns in different area's of the House, just in case? If could carry? It would be one of these!! Cannot add holsters at the moment, but will later on. I'm practicing with them now, at the range.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:54 AM   #5
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I carry either a HP or a CZ 75B but every once in a great while I do carry a Kahr PM9. That's me but from what I've seen and continue to see at the LGS I work at, small semi auto guns out sell the larger full size, hi capacity ones. Currently the biggest sellers are the M&P Shield, Glock 43 and the Sig P938 and throw in a few XD single stacks to that list. When I'm selling guns I try to steer the new or relatively new to shooting folks toward a larger pistol but more often than not they stay with one of the small single stacks. Their biggest concerns are ability to conceal the weapon and weight with all other factors taking a back seat no matter what I say.

I also teach NRA Basic Handgun and KY. concealed carry classes at the store and I mostly see those above mentioned pistols in those classes along with a few snub nose 38s. I might see one in ten folks with a medium or full sized weapon. Now these are, for the most part, new or relatively new shooters so that probably has something to do with that.

The friends and folks I shoot with that carry, continue to carry medium to full size weapons, weapons with 4 + inch barrels. But like me, and with rare exception, that's what they've always carried.
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{You guys should have seen Les on 'Black Friday' at the shop he works for. Busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest I tell ya!}

Anyhow, my experiences reflect those of Les generally speaking: The "old hands" who have been carrying longer than the current bumper crop of smallish reliable semi autos have been around, tend to tote something service sized or thereabouts. They are used to the weight, bulk, etc. and deal with it appropriately regarding gear choices.
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Brian, I was a Black Friday "virgin" so that being my first Black Friday, well, I didn't much care for it! I actually lost count of how many guns I sold that day... not saying I'm a great salesman because after the "can I help You?" the replies I mostly got were something along the lines of "I want that gun that's on sale" and the paperwork would start.

Sorry if I ignored you but that was pretty much the norm that day.
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Brian, I was a Black Friday "virgin" so that being my first Black Friday, well, I didn't much care for it! I actually lost count of how many guns I sold that day... not saying I'm a great salesman because after the "can I help You?" the replies I mostly got were something along the lines of "I want that gun that's on sale" and the paperwork would start.

Sorry if I ignored you but that was pretty much the norm that day.
If I can ask Les? What handgun was the Hot seller on Black Friday?
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Well, we had all the M&Ps on sale and some of S&W's revolvers too, so definitely Smith and Wesson was the biggest brand sold. I didn't see the final numbers but probably the Shield was the biggest selling model. I base that on knowing that of all handgun models sold in the store during normal sales times, the Shield outdoes all others.
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Les:

I do not envy you at all. I remember the I want the one on sale or the cheapest you have all too well. Seems like only yesterday. The memories are that vivid. In reality, it was like 33 and 34 years ago. Just do not ask what I did yesterday.

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Instead of caliber, I can see more folks thinking capacity for a prolonged encounter with .....uh..... multiple ....actors. I also see the possibility some folks are thinking about more magazines and maybe even a higher round to weight ratio. The serious man or woman knows what he/she can handle based upon the limitations imposed by his/her ability. Some with smaller pistols and revolvers may think about one uping, not sure.

The crowd I am familiar with are working stiffs with 12 plus plastic something on the belt and a carbine in the trunk. The retired guys I just qualified with were all shooting duty sized guns. I would say about a fifty-fifty mix of single stacks and double stacks.

My circle is pretty small. I think folks at the gun store counters and at populated public and private ranges may have a better idea about current talk.

I do not want to think new ammunition demand will have a negative effect on prices now that they have started to fall. I would like to think John Q. Public is going to train a little more. I would like to see those ranges that prohibit holster work find a way to holster qualify their shooters.

My tendency is to look at the total package. I hope the average Joe does not just go buy something new and does not really go much further than that.
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