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Old 06-30-2012, 11:23 PM   #1
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Sig's Model 716 Patrol Rifle

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Took my new Sig 716 Patrol Rifle to the range today. As is my norm, I'd previously cleaned, lubed, and familiarized myself with the new rifle prior to the range.

First impression was that it was a nicely made, piston driven, slightly oversize M16. It came in with a 16" barrel(1:10" twist) that comes with nice usable front and rear BUIS. Mechanically zeroing the rear I counted 104 clicks and centered it at 52 clicks. At the range this proved almost perfect only needing a few clicks to the left to center the group. Well done, Sig.

I then proceeded to mount my 10X Super Sniper Scope on it and attempted to get some groups. This was hampered by the heavy 7lb (or so) trigger and my lack of trigger time. Loads were 175 grain Sierra Match Kings over various charges. Nothing fancy all in military brass...

Final 10 round group was about 2" with the majority inside an inch. My belief is that with proper ammo, a trigger job, and more shooting time we will have a solid sub MOA shooter.
Again, very good for a "Patrol" rifle.

At 9.3 lbs the Sig is no lightweight, but compares favorably with the M14 and some other semi auto .308's. My custom GAP AR-10 tips the scales at 15.5 lbs, but it's got a truck axel for a barrel.

The Sig does not come cheap, but it's no more expensive than some .308's and considerably cheaper than some guns already on the market.

It's notable that the Sig 716 uses a gas piston and op rod system that is smooth shooting and extremely high quality. The bore axis is low and attributes to the soft recoil and fast recovery times.

With the short 16" barrel I would have expected muzzle blast to be extreme, but it was less than anticipated. I dare say less than the M14/M1A.

In the "patrol rifle" mode this rifle would benefit from a low power variable scope and would be fairly easy to enter or egress from a vehicle.

My only complaint is that the trigger pull is heavy. Seven pounds or so and that needs to be corrected before the full potential of the rifle can be realized.

Folks, Sig has a winner in the Model 716. As work gets out these are going to get hard to find. It's a keeper.

Wes
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:07 AM   #2
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Thanks for the range report Wes. It sounds like a great rifle. I like the 9.3lbs, not too heavy. Being a patrol rifle, what would you like to see the trigger set to?

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Old 07-01-2012, 01:19 PM   #3
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Gib,

I'd like to see the trigger set at about 3 1/2 pounds, maybe 4 pounds, that breaks like glass.

Shooting two stage triggers is easy once you get used to them and they've been properly tuned. My AR-10 and M-14SA are prime examples.

For glass I"m going to put a Luppie 1.25 X 4 VX-R on it with firedot reticle. Perfect in it's "Patrol Rifle" role.

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Are you going to have a 'smith work on the trigger or drop in a replacement? A Geissele trigger, maybe?
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:50 PM   #5
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Wes,

I checked out the Leupold VX-R 1.25-4x20 on Optics planet. Nice. I remember when a 4x was all I needed.

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Old 07-03-2012, 09:27 AM   #6
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Hello Wes,

The new SIG 716 sounds great! I guess the trigger is a vexing thing that you probably already have figured out.... It sounds like a little stone work to the hammer hook and dis connector will go a long way....

I am kind of grinning because a neighbor dropped off about 100 rounds of .308 the day before yesterday for me and I don't even own a .308.... I guess I have to work on that...

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Old 07-03-2012, 02:21 PM   #7
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That is it Chris! Now you need a new rifle. Either that or you can donate it the the Officer of Marines and/or myself.
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sig 716 - federal 7.62x51 147gr FTE

I'm having issues(FTE) after testing my sig 716 for the first time today on a normal gas setting, using federal 7.62x51 157gr. Have not tried any ammo yet.

Any advice will greatly appreciated.
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Gents,

If your having trouble in the 716 with Federal 147 gr ammo I guess that I'd check to see if you cleaned and lubed the Sig prior to usage. I make it a habit with my new rifles and rarely have a stoppage.

Check the magazine. Buy several more and try those, too. Buy Mag-Pul .308 mags...they are what the Sig 716 comes with and mine have worked fine.

Ammo: How old is it? What condition? How has it been stored? If old or you don't know what pedigree buy a couple boxes of 147 grain .308 ball from the "big three" or a know reputable maker.

You're post noted you hadn't shot any yet? That must be a mis-print. Did you mean that your hadn't bought any yet?

Most of us with 716's have found that they are very reliable. Except one internet nut who shoots crap that barely function the rifle and then complains that the Sig 716 is a POS.

After you've done that check back with us and let us know the results.

Wish that we could get a look at the weapon and ammo...could you send some pics and more info???

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I plan on buying a patrol rifle REALLY soon and was wondering what is the best ammo for this rifle? Thanks very much.
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