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#1 ·
What is a .45 Super? I found some boxes on the shelf at my local gunshop. Made by Triton, loads were 185gr at 1300fps. Is this load the same dimensionally as the Golden Saber, just hopped up? I compared it side-by-side with the Golden Saber and it looked the same. Any forseeable problems shooting this in the current Springfield Armory GI pistol?

Matt
 
#2 ·
This stuff is - in very basic terms - a .45acp loaded to 9mm pressures.

While it has been shot in very heavily sprung 1911 pistols, this is not the best way to do things. A dedicated Super barrel, combined with extremely well fitted lugs and proper springs, would be the best bet.

Never saw the need.

The Super brass is thicker too, IIRC.

If it were me, I'd buy the stuff for the components, pull them, and reload (making adjustments for the lesser case capacity, of course), given that there is a good deal on them. Depending upon where you live, they may not move fast, and the dealer may want to get rid of 'em cheap.

Shooting them from a stock 1911 is a good way to batter the lugs and frame.

Josh <><
 
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#7 ·
Back when Triton Ammo was in business, they produced the .45 Super round on brass cases made by Starline with the Triton headstamp. I had read another forum about using their .45 Super rounds in a S&W Model 625-2. One of the Triton staff was a member of the forum and he advised that this was not recommended by the company. Triton made two different pressure levels of .45 Super. The lower level might have been okay in limited amounts, but the high pressure level was way too hot.


Roadster
 
#8 ·
I'm no expert, but Clark Custom Guns modifies the 625 to take the 460 Rowland, which is a higher pressure round than the 45 Super. I haven't heard of any problems with the conversion.

YMMV

From realguns.com; "45 ACP 21,000 PSI, +P 23,000 PSI, 45 Super 28,000 PSI, and 460 Rowland 38,000+ PSI "
 
#10 ·
I do not make recomendations - too many variables.

That said I dont mind reporting what I am willing to do myself and you have to make your own decisions.

I have fired dozens of factory .45 Super rounds in my original 1917 S&W without a problem. No qualms about shooting them in any 1950 or 1955 target.

I have a S&W pinned barrel 25-2 which I rechambered to .45 Winchester Magnum. While I fired factory loads in it to "proof" the gun my idea was to gove me more case capacity to load slow powders so I can get 260-300gr bullets at *moderate* velocity (and about 25K pressure). I dont think I would put a steady diet of .460 Rowland through it nor even factory .45 Win Mag.

You have to work out your own limits.

Jim H.
 
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