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Old 07-30-2012, 09:27 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by gib View Post
Hello Nuclear,

<snip> I had better groupings with my 200gn and 230gn loads. Some say Sellier and Bellot make the Winchester white box even though it says made in USA on the box. <snip>

Gib, this is true of the 7.62x54r loadings, at least.

Their non-metric loadings do not act like S&B when reloading them. S&B usually have tight primer pockets that are a bit shallow. For example, a Federal primer protrudes above flush by about 0.010" to 0.015". Not enough to hurt anything, in my opinion, but not recommended as safe in anything you're likely to read.

On the other hand, .45acp White Box, for example, does not have that problem, though the S&B cases I have in that caliber do.

This is not definitive proof, but gives me a pretty good suspicion of what is rebadged S&B.

For the record, I like S&B for handloading. Many (most?) do not as they say it doesn't hold up. It holds up just fine for me, so I do not know why it doesn't work for most. I do anneal my rifle cases, but that's usually just the first time. I get 10+ loadings out of them. I'd get more if I annealed more, but that means more work and less shooting!


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